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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 20, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
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Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

The world probably doesnít need another rusty Camaro rebuild thread, but I will post up anyway in hopes of getting input from more experienced Camaro restorers. Believe me, I wonít get offended if someone tells me thereís a better way or Iím doing something wrong.

This 69 Z28 RS belonged to a friend of mine. He had it since high school in the late 70ís. It sat in his back yard neglected for quite a few years. In 1997 he gave me the car. He was tired of people knocking on his door asking about the car.
The car was rusty enough that he considered it beyond repair. At the time I thought so too.

Although the car fell into disrepair under my friends ownership, he did have the foresight and vision to go down to the Chevy dealer parts counter sometime in the mid to late 80ís and buy anything and everything available for the car. I acquired with it a plethora of new GM parts including quarters, cowl air cleaner assembly, Dash gauges, cowl hood, and boxes I havenít been through yet

I brought it home and put it in a pole barn for a year or two. Out of site, out of mind until the city got after me to clean up my back yard. I had to sell a couple of other cars and make room for it in the garage.

These are the first pictures I took of the car. First pic is coming out of the pole barn. I know this pic is old because my ex wifes is standing next to it, and sheís been gone at least 20 years. Second pic is after washing the car and getting it ready to put it in the garage.
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post #2 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 20, 07:55 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

About this time I also purchased this less rusty car with the intentions of moving all the drive train from the yellow car and put all the new parts on it or just use it as a donor car. It got put in the pole barn where the yellow car was. At this point the Camaro project seemed overwhelming and I got into building a ChevyII that didnít need near the amount of work. Itís just as well it got postponed. In retrospect, back then I probably didnít have the skills, budget or time to do a good job. Also new body parts like roofs , cowls and dashes werenít being reproduced yet.
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post #3 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 20, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

Over the years the Camaro project kept getting postponed. First i was waiting for my son to get out of college. He did. (BTW his name is Chevy and now works for GM). Then I was waiting for retirement. Well, Iím retired now and have no more excuses. After attending Turkey Run in Daytona this last Thanksgiving, I came home inspired and decided to start the Camaro project. Fist step was getting it uncovered after accumulating 20 years worth of crap being stacked onto it

Car now out in the open where it can be looked at:
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post #4 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 20, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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Second step was tearing into the car to get a more accurate assessment of condition and rust.
Hereís what I found:
Pictures tell the story. Kind of what I was expecting.
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post #5 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 20, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

Over the years the camoros sat, I did get the opportunity to paint a few cars, change out a couple of floorboards, hang a quarter, do cowl repairs on a Mustang, build a couple of roll cages, etc

Also there are replacement body panels for everything now days.

Iím starting to look at things differently now. Especially after seeing the threads here with people restoring worst cars than this .
Both cars got moved to workshop space where the is more space to work on them. Iíve subjected my neighbors to years of automotive related noises and smells. Iíll give them a break this time around.
The donor car is rustier than I remembered and yellow car is looking much more repairable now, so I decided to keep the Z28 a real Z28 and completely restore it. It will be more labor, but itís best way to do it.

The lower part of the car is fairly solid where it counts. Thereís really no rust on the rockers, lower firewall, frame rails or tail panel.

The disassembly process begins:
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The plan is to work on one area at a time. A jig probably isnít necessary, but I built one anyways.
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Wow, quite a journey. Keep at it and keep posting pics. There is a huge resource here regardless of the direction you go!

Good luck.

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Subscribed Looks like a really fun project, and exciting you have so many factory parts ready for it. Also gotta love the color combo & endura bumper!
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Re: Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

Yowser.... you've got your work cut out for you! My advice is to confirm what you actually have before getting into it too deep. On the plus side, just about every part is made for a '69 Camaro, so your budget/ability/time/desire will be the deciding factor if it is worth it to you. If it proves to be a matching numbers RS Z/28, that will be one sharp and valuable car when done. Unfortunately you will probably have more in it than it is worth when done. Don't let that stop you, though.

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Re: Florida Cracker Z28 Restoration

Nice project and good luck.
You can never have too many pictures - makes for good reference material.
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Looks like a fun project. Man.....vinyl tops sure can cause some problems. Make sure you photograph every single detail and throw nothing away until your done. Even cut up pieces can serve as a valuable reference if needed.
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post #12 of 41 (permalink) Old Jan 7th, 20, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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This is fun. I'm enjoying this. I'm going ahead with this project

The posts might start to get a little boring though. There's just going to be lots of metal replacing for a while. I'll heed the good advice above and take lots of pictures and document.

I used the Summit gift certificate I got for Christmas to purchase a new cowl assy and upper dash.

I got busy on the firewall and cowl area. The cowl actually fit quite well.. Patches were made to repair the rusted shoulder areas in the A-pillars.
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We are enjoying it too - keep up the awesome work and photos! Most owners don't get to know their cars quite as well as you are, working on the bare metal
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I got the cleanup arsenal out to clean up the inner cowl and A-pillar areas. They got metal prepped and cleane out. Rockers weren't rusted, but all that cowl rust had fallen down inside them. A 4ft piece of heater hose hooked up to a shop vac worked sucking rust particles out of the rockers.

A siphon feed engine cleaning gun forks well for getting POR15 applied to those inaccessible areas. And Eastwood internal frame spray for areas even more difficult
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I learned this trick from another post here. Injecting POR 15 into gaps.
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