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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 15th, 19, 07:55 PM Thread Starter
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Kid's car needs a quarter

Yeah, not a Camaro, so if I need to move this somewhere else, let me know. My daughter backed into a tree a few weeks ago, and crushed the quarter and door on her car. (2005 Accord) It's obviously totaled, and we are not going to file an insurance claim because we don't want rates to go up. Car is low mileage, was bought new by my dad, and is well maintained, so we want to keep it. Hanging a door is no big deal, but I am going to have to eventually weld a quarter on it to make it even close to right. For now I am going to hang a new door on it and put in a new back window and rig up a taillight to get her back on the road for the short term. I have a Hobart Handler 140 that I have used to put on a few patch quarters, so I am not averse to putting on a quarter for her. I know the proper fix would be to cut all the spot welds and go into the window channel and door jamb like the factory did, but let's face it, this is a teenager's 15 year old car that might likely get tagged again. Is there any reason that I couldn't seam it below the rear window glass and stay out of the jamb? I know it would not be optimal, but I'm not looking for perfection. I mainly want to get it looking respectable and get a proper taillight back in it.

Looking forward to ideas... Thanks!
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 15th, 19, 09:35 PM
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Re: Kid's car needs a quarter

Tom, Patch it however you want too. Who's to say it's right or wrong unless the structural integrity
is compromised. And it might be with a car of this design. I don't know. Insurance company might
raise hell if it was another accident. Even doing the work yourself you're gonna have a fair amount
of cash into it. I'd consider selling it as a parts car and pickup another for your daughter. I would
think you could find a $2-$3k school car. Good luck.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 16th, 19, 06:16 AM
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[QUOTE=RSSSfanatic;1783182257]Yeah, not a Camaro, so if I need to move this somewhere else, let me know. My daughter backed into a tree a few weeks ago, and crushed the quarter and door on her car.


Backed into a tree!!!! By the looks of the damage was she going 30 mph??? Also the white paint that got transferred to the car doesn't appear to have come from a tree.

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Yeah, not a Camaro, so if I need to move this somewhere else, let me know. My daughter backed into a tree a few weeks ago, and crushed the quarter and door on her car.


Backed into a tree!!!! By the looks of the damage was she going 30 mph??? Also the white paint that got transferred to the car doesn't appear to have come from a tree.
It was a white oak tree...

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 16th, 19, 06:46 AM
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Re: Kid's car needs a quarter

I would try banging that out, today's metals are so thin you would be surprised at how much you can get that qtr pushed back out. The lower crunch zone might need some more serious cutting and welding. But for zero $$ if it were me, I would give it a shot before buying anything.

My kids car got a piece of plywood dislodged by a truck in front of her and sliced the bumper cover. I riveted it together for $0 and she loved the Frankenstein look. But then she later re-ended a car and I had to replace the fenders and bumper cover anyways.

There will be more damage on this "trial driving" car. Just get the qtr pushed back out enough to mount the taillight and bumper cover and don't sweat the cosmetics, is my $.02.

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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 16th, 19, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Good advice, Kevin. Yes, it was definitely a tree - I had to pull it out of the ditch that it was leaning against! She is actually quite lucky that the tree caught her. She forgot something and was trying to back up to a driveway to turn around. Narrow steep road in our neighborhood with no shoulder. She dropped a tire off the edge, hit some wet leaves, and started sliding. She is generally a pretty cautious driver - nothing like her mother! If that tree wasn't there, she would have likely rolled it down an embankment. And I have no idea what possessed her to try backing up instead of simply going forward to the next driveway. I guess that's the way the teen-age mind works.

I really don't think anything was compromised structurally. It really was a low speed collision. It doesn't take much to cause a lot of damage on these newer vehicles. Good thing is that all the doors open and close fine, and gaps are good, so unibody was not tweaked. A branch fell off the dead tree that she hit and broke out the rear window.

At least this will give me the excuse to get some new tools!

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Tom, Patch it however you want too. Who's to say it's right or wrong unless the structural integrity
is compromised. And it might be with a car of this design. I don't know. Insurance company might
raise hell if it was another accident. Even doing the work yourself you're gonna have a fair amount
of cash into it. I'd consider selling it as a parts car and pickup another for your daughter. I would
think you could find a $2-$3k school car. Good luck.
Allan, that was my first thought. But just looking around, everything in that price range was 10+ year old and had at least 175K on it. I KNOW this car was maintained properly - I handled most of it for my dad, and he bought it new. It has about 80K on it now, and drives like a new one.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 16th, 19, 03:02 PM
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My caveat. I never have worked in a body shop so this isn't profession advice by any means. My wife wrecked a 89 Buick Century in the front fender. It got all the way into the front inner structure but left the suspension alone. I read somewhere to pull out the existing damage as best you can before welding anything back together. I chocked the wheels, chained it to a big tree and pulled it out with my pickup and a come-along.
I then cut out the inner structure, went to a wrecking yard and had them cut out the part I needed from another car. I welded it in, painted a new fender and away I went. Drove it without any problems for quite awhile and sold it for a few hundred dollars a couple of years later even with the wrecked title.
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