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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 09, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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Hi. The problem I'm having is that I put a big block in a small block car. I changed the tranny crossmember to one for a 400 (Was a 350). I also changed the frame mounts to big block mounts. The engine sits on the frame and the pulley also sits on the front rail. I'm using a long water pump and pulleys. I'm putting some pics up to show what I'm up against. What am I doing wrong?



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Be careful not to bend your pulley. What is preventing the holes from lining up on the motor mounts? It looks like things would clear if the passenger side were lifted up a little and the whole thing shifted right to line up the holes. Try getting one hole lined up and put that bolt in. Then you can maybe move your chain around and play with the other side. I know that sounds easier than it actually is. Engine installs are never easy, but I know a Texan can do it!

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I agree with Kevin, your engine needs to come up on the pass side. Support the engine with the hoist and remove the cross member then just slowly lift the engine until you can get the bolts in the mounts.

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Yes agree with above.... You will need a couple of buddy's and move that cross member out of the way until you get the bolts in the motor mounts first. Possibly using a floor jack under the trans with a nice cushion of course and raise it up as you get one hole lined up (driver side first if possible) and install the bolt the other side you may need to use a philip's screw driver to help you line up the hole and as your buddy's are lowering or raising the motor to help line the hole up.




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Thanks. It looks like that in the pics. I tried to move it to the passenger side and line up the bolts but the engine won't go down far enough because the pan is sitting on the frame. The oil pan has about 4 inches from top to bottom in the front so I think the pan is OK and not the wrong one. Is there a set of motor mounts that will bring up the engine?? Everything seems to be lining up great except that the engine is sitting on the frame.
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Look like the wrong motor mounts to me.....
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Thanks. I thought the motor mounts were wrong also. I ordered some Moroso solid mounts # 62515 and hope that will take care of the problem.
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Look like the wrong motor mounts to me.....
Agree.
Ya know, Classic sells a complete BBC interlocking kit for less than a hundred bucks. Looks just like the ones on my car. (original)
And I'm sure you replaced those SBC springs with stiffer ones. Right? Iron heads are a load.

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Skeeter , What with all the blankets on the front clip ?
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You may have to turn that rear A-arm bolt around or shorten it up. Dont want to ding up those nice headers!
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Thanks. I thought the motor mounts were wrong also. I ordered some Moroso solid mounts # 62515 and hope that will take care of the problem.
Don't forget to set the headers in befor you run the bolts threw the mounts...

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Skeeter , What with all the blankets on the front clip ?
Alan i was protecting my buddy's cherry picker from getting scratched or nicked up .

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Me thinks you have the wrong frame stands. Yours are way shorter than mine... pic#1 is a small block stand 1 1/2" from frame to bottom of arch (bolt goes above it} pic#2 is my drivers side & measures 2" . pic#3 is pass side and is 1 3/4". I have a full inch between my pan and the crossmember. Kits aren't always correct... the motor mount itself has no effect on height. For the record my mounts are urethane hi-po's but I don't remember from where. You can see yours are way shorter, hence the problem...






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Thanks. It looks like that in the pics. I tried to move it to the passenger side and line up the bolts but the engine won't go down far enough because the pan is sitting on the frame. The oil pan has about 4 inches from top to bottom in the front so I think the pan is OK and not the wrong one. Is there a set of motor mounts that will bring up the engine?? Everything seems to be lining up great except that the engine is sitting on the frame.
So the engine is high on the left (standing in front looking down on the engine), low on the right, the pan is on the frame rail and the cross member is is providing a fixed connection. It still sounds like the engine is cocked toward the driver side and needs to be lifted up, leveled and set back down. You still need to remove the cross member so the engine and trans assembly can move freely on the hoist until you have the mount bolts in.

See if this will help you with the frame mounts... http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#EngineMounting

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