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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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1967 - won't start

I cant find my voltage regulator anywhere in my 1967camero, i ve been online looking at other cameros i just cant seem to find my vr anywhere. My problem is when i turn car on run it and then shut it off it wont start it doesnt do anything,i turn key and nothing, until i let it cool off like for an hour, if i jump it, starts instant, i ve changed the igniton and did same thing so i put back my original ignition switch and changed the starter, alternator, battery and connections some one told me to change v r but i cant find it anywhere any suggestions..its a 350 automatic Help also i heAR that the wiper motor might have something to do with it starting is this true? because my wipers dont work well when they want to and not very fast at all.

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 06:37 PM
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Re: 1967

It is possible your alternator has been replaced with one with an internal voltage regulator. My External one was on the Core Support. Now I don't have one. I switched to a 100 amp internal regulated one.
1.) Try charging your battery, Take the negative cable off, and check with a test lamp to see if you have a constant power drain.
2.) If you take your alternator to Autozone, they can test it.
3.) You also need to be sure you do not have a dead short in the battery itself.
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post #3 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 06:39 PM
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should be located on the radiator support on the driver side. engine side of the radiator support. small little black box...like this

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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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would my alternator be a certain model to find out if it has an internal regulator not sure on that, also you think this could be my problem why when its warmed up and i turn key off then i try to turn it on wont do anything at all, my battery is new alternator is new starter and solinoid is new, could they be bad if they are a week or so old?

i found my horn relay and i thought that was vr and they told me it wasnt so i cant seem to find it anywhere im stumped. car runs great till i shut it off and then try to turn on and wont do anything at all, like i had no battery in it. wierd.
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could be that the starter gets too hot.......do you have a mini torque starter or a heat shield?

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Re: 1967

it could be that you drive a CAMERO instead of a CAMARO?? J/K

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post #7 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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honestly im not sure which starter it is but i just replaced it 2 daYS ago
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yes that could be the problem too i get it but seriously can i get some help on this problem. thanks .
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Re: 1967

The large box is the voltage regulator and the small box is the horn relay. This is located to the front of the alternator on the core support.

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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
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i just found out that it has a internal regulator thats why i cant find the vr anywhere, and i replaced the alternator already but does the internal require anything else i need to add to it because i had no idea i just replaced it at autozone and they never asked if it was internal external so what else could i do and what could be causing this starting problem? thanks everybody.

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post #12 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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its not a heat shield starter.
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post #13 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 10, 10:42 PM
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Does it have headers on it? If it does, the starter may be getting too hot. I had the same problem a while back. Ended up getting a hot start spring from GM and the problem went away. It's the spring that goes in the starter solenoid and it is a little shorter than the original one.
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post #14 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 29th, 10, 08:03 AM
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Here is what I would do. I would connect a wire to the terminal on the starter solenoid that the key switch signal is going to. I would use wire the same gauge as the factory wire coming from the key switch. Make sure you attach it good with a crimped on eyelet and not some crappy hack job. route the wire away from your headers so it doesn't melt. Make sure the car is in park with the ebrake set. I would turn the key to the ON position so the coil is hot. I would touch the end of the wire to the positive post on battery to make engine crank and fire. ONLY HOLD THE WIRE ON THE POSITIVE POST LONG ENOUGH TO START ENGINE!. Run the engine until it is hot and then turn engine off with key switch. Turn the key back to on and see if you can restart the engine with the wire to the positive battery post. Obviously if it restarts fine then it would be in your key switch signal circuit to your starter. If it doesn't restart I would look really closely into your positive and negative cables from the battery to the starter and the negative cable from the battery to the engine block. I wonder if you have some crappy cables that have high resistance. If you are getting a clicking sound when touching the wire to the positive post but no cranking it likely the starter solenoid giving you the problem....I hope this makes sense. Be careful.......


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post #15 of 27 (permalink) Old Mar 29th, 10, 08:19 AM Thread Starter
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well i dont have headers, i thought that too that it might be getting hot the wire but i reran the wire away from as much heat as i could and it still does that but i will try that advice from fordpowerstroke thanks ill will keep ya posted thanks. oh does it matter that i just replaced the starter solinoid friday took old one in and autozone warrantied it and gave me a new one because the solinoid tested bad starter was good, so they just swapped me out because it was only a year old. but when i purchased that starter a year ago it was doing the same thing thats why i bought a new starter thinking that was the problem. but it still did samething.
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