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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old Jun 15th, 01, 04:00 AM Thread Starter
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After reading through the past starting problem topics I decide to post my wierd one and hope for some help.

Yesterday (97 degree day) I was prepping the old 68 camaro for test drive. I started the engine, and while it was warming up, fixed the passenger side running light (ground wire was cut for some reason). After the engine was running for around 10 minutes it died. Never had that happen before, I restarted it without a problem. Took it out for a little 10 block drive (about 7 minutes). Got home and it was idling a bit irratic between 600-800 RPM. Car died on my inclined driveway, had problems turning starter, car started after I waited about 2 minutes and I pulled it into the garage. I was going to adjust the idle speed screw but now the car will crank fine, but will not start. The engine block seemed to be extremely hot, and retained the heat for 4-5 hours (hot enough you wouldn't leave your hand on the valve covers after 5 hours???). I thought it may be vapor locked from the engine heat and left it alone till this morning. No luck, still wont fire. So, I thought someone may have some tips for when I get home.

I am thinking it may be a distributor problem, I can smell a whiff of gas if I pump the pedal a few times so I figure its getting fuel (even if my idle is screwed up). I figure I can check for a good spark first, and then check the HEI. What should I look for if I pop the distributor cap off?
What should I look for in the carb (fuel wise) if I am getting a good spark?

What is the deal with the engine heat? Car runs at about 180-190 degrees/water temp gage, but after 20 minutes total run time it stayed *very* hot for 5 hours. I did check my engine oil level and it was good, oil pressure gage read 60psi I think, antifreeze was good.

Car specs: 350 SB, Edelbrock 650 carb, HEI ignition, just put in new AC Delco plugs and wires about 2 months ago, newish starter/battery, Victor Jr. intake, cast iron heads, M21, 3.42 rear... Fluid levels all checked out ok.

Thanks for any input.
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old Jun 15th, 01, 07:33 AM
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Sounds like your running too lean. Rich up your card mixture.

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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old Jun 15th, 01, 10:40 AM Thread Starter
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Sometimes you just gotta laugh!

I was all ready to go tearing into this puppy to see what was wrong, and did a little carb cleaning with some spray cleaner. A little light bulb went on and I turn the key - she fired right up and died. So its a fuel problem, I'm thinkin either it isn't getting fuel to the carb (fuel pump) or the carb was way outta whack. I look at my gas gage and its at a half tank - another light bulb goes on - head to the back of the car and take off the gas cap and bounce the car and listen for sounds of a half tank sloshing around. I barely heard the faintest sounds of a tablespoon of gas sloshing around. Grab my gas can, put in a few gallons, prime the carb, and she fires right up - runs like a champ!! My fuel gage then proceded to drop to near empty, hehe.

I sure am glad it was something so simple.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old Jun 18th, 01, 07:34 AM
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Heh heh! Reminds me of the movie Sling Blade! It's always the easy stuff. Glad to hear you got it figured out!

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