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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 01, 09:33 AM
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Ok, I'm doing my routine spark plug changing and when i get finished and hop in to fire her up.. NOTHING. all electrical components work, the ign light is turning on. gen light when i try to crank it.. but NO crank, not even a click from the starter. I know starters can go bad but normally they will click. how can i go from cranking to nothing at all. What even puzzles me more is I've never had functional reverse lights, they were never hooked up to work with the transmission when we put the 700R in. here it is, when the key is turned to ON, the reverse lights are on for some ODD reason. so my car won't crank but now the reverse lights are working (but there constantly on when the key is on, doesn't matter which gear)

Goodluck with this one...or should I say I'm the one who needs the goodluck. this just looks like a huge wiring problem to me, and that can be $$$$. I know the car needs to be rewired but that is a task I'm not in the mood for right now

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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 01, 09:53 AM
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Sounds like a bad neutral safety switch to me.

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post #3 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 01, 10:02 AM
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Sounds like the neutral safety switch to me also. The switch may be bad or the shifter out of adjustment. The car "thinks" it's in reverse so it won't crank. Check to make sure it really isn't stuck in reverse somehow before you try to start it. And be VERY carefull. I tore a door off on the garage wall because the car started while in reverse.

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Just about HAS to be what the above guys said. Make sure the switch is adjusted correctly when the trans is in neutral and park. Make SURE the trans is in neutral or park when you fire it up!

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post #5 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 01, 03:40 PM
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OK, were is this switch at? I have a B&M shifter, the quarter stick model. and it is in park because i got a thick wire and jumped the car by touching the ends to the bat (+) and the starter. fired up and I took it around the block. the reverse lights stayed on in each gear. and when i pulled it back in, turned it off using the key, wouldnt' start back up.
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Question 1: Original Column shift? switch is on the top of steering column right above the brake pedal. Pk&Neutral along with reverse is located here, Adapt wire harness from here to new B&M reverse switch your going to buy.

Question 2: Original console shift? switch was attached to orig shifter inside console. Adapt wire harness to newly purchased B&M reverse switch and adjust accordingly for proper Nuetral start.

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It's also possible that there is no switch at all and someone has straight wired the circuit so to speak and now their not so handy work has come undone. Just another possibility to think about while you trouble shoot.

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post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 27th, 01, 10:21 AM
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Rogleete,

I believe the neutral safety wires you need to trace are purple and about 10 guage. Trace 'em back from your interior fuse panel.

If you have a '69 assembly manual, use it. If not, get it - it's invaluable for stuff like this. Jon
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post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 27th, 01, 10:27 AM
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I'm sure its in park..and it doesn't matter, there on in every gear
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There is a plug (single pole if I remember right) that goes to the tranny for the reverse lights. If it's disconnected, the lights stay on.

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any idea which side/were this plug is located and can it be fixed without taking the crossmember off
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Hmmmm, if my memory serves me correctly the plug is on the drivers side. Fairly small gauge wire, with a rubber plug that fits on a pole/switch on the tranny. Someone maybe cut it off during the tranny swap???

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no, didn't get cut off during tranny swap because that was about 8 months ago. just happened all the sudden. I will jack the car up tomarrow and check it out though.
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Check the steering column for the switch. Also can you turn the steering column just below the ignition switch (in front of the dash gauges)?? This would move the switch and allows you do a quick check. If you can't the reserve lock-out linkage is installed (its usually taken out when people install headers).

Was this originally a 4-speed car?
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