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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Aug 17th, 06, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
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Daily driver electrical/starting problem

Guys, I need some advice. We bought a '99 suburban last fall and I'm staring to experience some electrical gremlins.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17311

I never fully got this issue reolved, but did find that a remote start/alarm system had been inststalled by a previous owner.

The other day the engine would just not start. The battery was replaced just a few months ago. There wa a 'click' sound as if the starter solenoid was activating, but no cranking of the starter. I dropped the starter and had it tested-it was good. Teh click I heard must have been the starter relay in the fuse box? It seems now that no power was getting to the solenoid-just a guess.

At this point, I decided that it was time to remove the alarm system to see if that was the culprit. Especially since I thought it may have been contributing to my previous problem.

The original factory wiring had been spliced in what I would call a 'T' fashion-they stripped about 1/4" of insulation and wrapped the new alarm/remote start wire around the factory wire. So I disconnected all of those connections. Went to hook the battery back up and the starer strated cranking immediately, the key wasn't even in the ignition!!

At this point, I still have the no start problem and my dash is torn apart! I have checked and double checked that the factory wiring under the dash is still intact. Do I need to go back to square one and try replacing the battery cables? What about the starter relay in the underhood fuse box? I feel that I may have gotten in over my head here!! Help??

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Aug 17th, 06, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

Can someone provide a link to a good wiring diagram at least? The crappy Hanes book is all I have...

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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old Aug 20th, 06, 05:53 AM
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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

My advice is to consult with a local car alarm specialist. Pay the guy a hundred bucks to come and connect the wires.

If all you're trying to do is get the starter to crank using the key switch, then it doesn't sound like a very difficult issue to solve, provided you have someone familiar with the wiring......

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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

Turns out the starter solenoid was bad afterall.

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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old Aug 30th, 06, 07:16 PM
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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

Never overlook the most obvious,or the cheapest...
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Never overlook the most obvious,or the cheapest...
Yeah, you're definitely right about that. But if you look in his first post, he said he had, "dropped the starter and had it tested-it was good."

As the old saying goes, garbage in - garbage out............................

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Yeah, you're definitely right about that. But if you look in his first post, he said he had, "dropped the starter and had it tested-it was good."

As the old saying goes, garbage in - garbage out............................

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Not exactly sure what was meant by that. I took the starter to AutoZone, they tested it and the machine said it was good. I then happened across this thread https://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88212 and decided to try replacing the solenoid anyway. It turned out be the problem.

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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 06, 06:44 AM
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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

"Garbage in" = wrong information provided (you said starter was good)

"Garbage out" = wrong diagnosis (based on wrong info)


That's all I meant. No criticism intended.......................................... .


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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old Sep 13th, 06, 07:47 PM
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Re: Daily driver electrical/starting problem

so much for todays bench tests.We tested starters and drives on the bench and passed them if they could chew up a Sherwood hockey stick and still pull low amps.lol
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