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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 18, 08:15 AM Thread Starter
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Help a newbie decode

First, thanks in advance for your help! I have been reading for days and have found a ton of useful info on here. I am sure what I am about to ask is somewhere on this site buried. I have looked, but need some guidance.

I have a '67 RS/SS 350 Convertible. I can say this because I have been able to locate & decipher the VIN and Cowl tag. I am very excited as it seems everything matches up all the way down to the interior color & power top on convertible. My concern comes in one area of the Cowl tag and not being able to find the block stamp.

Cowl tag says it should have a 3sp m15 or m13 (I don't know what m15/m13 means) and the car has a Hurst 4 sp currently. I can't locate the stamp on the block to verify it is the engine "matched" to the car. Where exactly do I locate this? I have seen a couple of posts that say infront of the head passenger side, but I don't see anything. I would obviously hope it IS the engine so everything matches, but if not....then I get to start adding HP and more projects to come.

So two questions:
1. How do I tell if this is the 350 that came with the car originally?
2. Does the 3sp cowl with a 4sp installed tell me it isn't matching anyway and doesn't matter?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 18, 08:24 AM
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Re: Help a newbie decode

Here is a pic for engine pad stamp. This will tell you what the motor came from.

Suffix Code "MS" would be 1967 Camaro 350 SS 4-Speed.

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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 18, 08:41 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Help a newbie decode

You are awesome! Thank you! Flint, MI 350/295 on Sept. 20. It doesn't really specify the 3sp/4sp... can I assume this is all matching? I guess I still need to get under and look at rear end. I know 12 bolt, but haven't looked at numbers.
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 18, 09:26 AM
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if your cowl tag says 2B (3speed) and you have a 4 speed in it now than its not the original trans. Many were swapped back in the day as it was a good upgrade. Not sure why an SS would have even offered a 3 speed.

67 RS/SS 350 4sp.
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Please post a pic for the trim tag, 3SL and 4P for RS SS or possibly a RS L30 model?
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And there you go, Chris.
You could post pictures now.

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Please post a pic for the trim tag, 3SL and 4P for RS SS or possibly a RS L30 model?
Here is the tag. (i hope, still new and I think i have attached the pic correctly)
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Your car originally came with the M13 (3 speed manual) transmission. This was the standard transmission that came on the SS-350 unless the optional 4 speed M20 Muncie was ordered.

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You are awesome! Thank you! Flint, MI 350/295 on Sept. 20. It doesn't really specify the 3sp/4sp... can I assume this is all matching? I guess I still need to get under and look at rear end. I know 12 bolt, but haven't looked at numbers.

Generally speaking for 67, only hi-perf engines got a partial VIN stamp on the engine (block) pad. An L48 (350/295) should have one and if it matches the car VIN, then it's the original engine (assuming it's not a re-stamp).

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Re: Help a newbie decode

Can you post a picture of the engine pad? 9/20 is a bit early for a Janary car.
Is the car still black?

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Your car originally came with the M13 (3 speed manual) transmission. This was the standard transmission that came on the SS-350 unless the optional 4 speed M20 Muncie was ordered.

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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 18th, 18, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
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This is the best image I can get of the engine stamp. I am beginning to accept the fact that this is not numbers matching. The fact the car was early '67 and the engine (better image)was September... along with the few numbers I can make out below no way even comes close to the vin....bad news, good news. bad is I still wish numbers match... good is I can put whatever the hell I want in now. Just wish I would have figured this out in winter.

Thoughts on what should go in : )
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Re: Help a newbie decode

What is the VIN?
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