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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 18th, 19, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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1969 Camaro Identification

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if a1969 Camaro was ever sold with a 396 engine that wasn’t a SS car?
My Camaro has a 3/8 fuel line and a big block heater core but is not an X- xx car tag.

GM Official Production Date: September 23, 1969
ST 69 12437 (69 Camaro V8 coupe)
VN31900 BDY (Van Nuys plant body assignment number)
TR 723 (interior trim midnight green standard interior)

1969 Camaro V8 Base Model, Black w/White Rally Stripes, 350 HO w/ FiTech Go 4 600, HEI, 700r4 trans, 10 Bolt 4:10 Rear End, 15" Rally Wheels, 245/60/15 Rear, 235/60/15 Front

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 18th, 19, 04:17 PM
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

All 396's were SS cars. Van Nuys cowl tags didn't have X-codes.

I take it the original engine is gone ? How 'bout the transmission and rear end ? Have you check the codes to see if any of the drivetrain is original ? Does it have 1 or 2 fuel lines from the gas tank ?

  • '68 RS, AA, 749, L30, M(uncie)20 (originally a 3spd), 15yr backburner resto........
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Surely must be September 1968 production not 1969? There seems to be a digit missing from the body number you stated, but VN had ceased production of '69 MY well before September.

1969 04A Van Nuys-built Z/28. Cortez Silver with dark blue interior and VE3. Sold Clippinger Chevrolet. Raced at Lions in LA.
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post #4 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 19th, 19, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

So, transmission is gone, it has a 10 bolt rear end not sure if it is original.
It has a single 3/8” fuel line.

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ST 69 12437 VN 319000
TR 723 5A BDY PNT -E


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1969 Camaro V8 Base Model, Black w/White Rally Stripes, 350 HO w/ FiTech Go 4 600, HEI, 700r4 trans, 10 Bolt 4:10 Rear End, 15" Rally Wheels, 245/60/15 Rear, 235/60/15 Front

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

I think they all had 3/8 line in 69. Maybe not 6 cyl. ? With out the return line would indicate no Quadrajet carburetor. The only SS (350 & 396's) without a Q-Jet was the L78 (396 solid lifter) which had a Holley.

You should check the rear end codes. Front disc or drum brakes ?

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

OK, thanks for that. It's a Special Paint car, per the '-' on the tag, with Parchment vinyl top.
Curious though - where did the September production date come from? Car has a May 1969 trim tag. Is the VIN around 9L530xxx - 9L531xxx?

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post #7 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 19th, 19, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Drum brakes. Where on the rear end am I looking and what am I looking for?

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post #8 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 19th, 19, 10:07 PM
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

All 69 SS cars had front disc brakes. It appears to have been a small block, non SS (assuming it has a V8 VIN) and the BB heater core has been modified/changed.

Here's the rear end code locations. 1967-69 Camaro Drivetrain Decoding There isn't a partial VIN so build dates are used to determine if it fits the car build date. Should check the casting date on the differential as well...

EDIT: I should mention and as you know, without a numbers matching engine, transmission or documentation, almost anything is possible with these 50yr old cars. Usually things have been changed/modified over the years. An example would be those front drum brakes. Hard to imagine someone replacing disc brakes with drum, but even that has happened as some drag racers preferred drum ! The rear end may be your best clue.....

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Can I get all your numbers, BadCo? VIN, Trim Tag, and anything else...
I'd like to add your car to my database (1969 LA built Camaros)

As said above... your VIN should be around L530xxx-L531xxx. First week of May, 69 build.
I'd guess base car (I6 or 307 V8)

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

All,

Here is the NCRS certificate. I took the last few numbers on the certificate.


VIN 124379L530xxx


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2yer8vfnx...wltag.JPG?dl=0


NCRS Certificate
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kplfd2rzbm...oNCRS.bmp?dl=0

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Wow, that was a big miss by NCRS, LA plant stopped making Camaros in July 1969. The last batch were all 5A dates (1st week May), but actually built June/July. I would say your car is one of the early ones as my 05A has a later BDY number then yours.

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In 69 there was one strike at the Los Angeles assembly plant that basically ended 69 production there. It started April 19th and ended in Mid June. They only reopened the plant to clear the cars that were actually on the line at the beginning of the strike, which was about 1200 Camaros, plus probably the same amount of Chevrolets, and Impalas.

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Yes... big miss. makes you wonder what you're paying for...

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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Hey Steve, your database has the BDY numbers too? I'm curious do you track those as well? Were they usually in sequence with VIN? Or all over the place like NOR?

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post #14 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 20th, 19, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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Re: 1969 Camaro Identification

Hummm, can believe they screwed this up so badly. Wasn't cheap either!

Thx,

Joe

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post #15 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 20th, 19, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
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So what are the chance this was an actual SS car? any other way to check?

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