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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Apr 19th, 07, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone direct me to a traction bar that will place the snubber directly on my spring eye?
I have Lakewoods now and they are a few inces short.

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Can someone direct me to a traction bar that will place the snubber directly on my spring eye?
I have Lakewoods now and they are a few inces short.

Thanks,
Hey Mike what's the problem ,I ran the Lakewood's for 20 + like that no prob.they were designed that way to be just before spring eye, never bent a spring or broke…Happy Motoring

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Re: traction bar

I've been told by many that it was supposed to hit the spring eye. Plus, rear traction has been a serious issue for me. 2.6 60' times.

So I replaced the front springs and bushings and bump stops and will soon do the shocks too.
So in the rear, I plan to do bushings, leaf spring pads and was told to replace my traction bar with one that hits the spring eye. You can see where the snubber has been hitting on my spring and its left a significant mark.

So do you think hitting before the spring eye is OK?
I just don't know enough about traction bars and suspension to make an educated decision.
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I've been told by many that it was supposed to hit the spring eye. Plus, rear traction has been a serious issue for me. 2.6 60' times.

So I replaced the front springs and bushings and bump stops and will soon do the shocks too.
So in the rear, I plan to do bushings, leaf spring pads and was told to replace my traction bar with one that hits the spring eye. You can see where the snubber has been hitting on my spring and its left a significant mark.

So do you think hitting before the spring eye is OK?
I just don't know enough about traction bars and suspension to make an educated decision.
Boy Mike I can not say eather way but ,I had no problem with mine as same as yours and that is the way they were designed,all the camaros I have looked at runnung the Lakewood bars were just shy of the front spring eye ,I was running 10.80's @124mph I can not remember my 60 ft. 1.60???,now I am going more street that drag,I did trim the snubber as it was contacting the spring sitting static,so to get rid of preload I trimmed the snubber so had a 1/4 in gap at static...are you wheel hopping???your 60 ft. times may be suffering from tire spin ...Happy Motoring

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Ran Lakewoods in Super Stock back in the old days (70 to 75). Never had a problem with the snubber location. Comp Engineering has bars that do place the snubber under the spring eye. If you can swing it, Cal Tracs would be e better choice. More costly though. I found a set of plans on how to make your own bars, based on the Cal Trac design.

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The Lakewoods I have on there stop all wheel hop but my traction problems are more than just traction bar related.
I had no weight transfer due to front spring height cut to low and my snubbers were hard against the spring causing severe preload. I think that caused my leaf spring to be very stiff because it was like driving a wagon when on the roads.

I'm sure you guys are right and the Lakewood's are fine but I'm just covering all bases.
Since the last time I had it at the track, I have replaced the front springs and bushings and bump stops so my front ride height is now too high. I misjudged and should have gone with the Moroso trick springs but instead, went with a Moog spring called out for 67-69 Camaros with BBC.

I'm now going for the rear suspension upgrades.
New shocks (not sure which type and what kind....any suggestions?)
Traction bars
leaf spring bushings
leaf spring pads

I am going to go ahead and try those CEE-2101 suggested earlier in this thread. A friend of mine has a need for the Lakewood's that are on mine, he only has a wheel hop problem and these Lakewood's will solve that problem fast.
So I'll give them to him in trade for a new grill and headlight bezels.
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Ran Lakewoods in Super Stock back in the old days (70 to 75). Never had a problem with the snubber location. Comp Engineering has bars that do place the snubber under the spring eye. If you can swing it, Cal Tracs would be e better choice. More costly though. I found a set of plans on how to make your own bars, based on the Cal Trac design.
I've thought seriously about those Caltracs too.

Did your Lakewoods put the snubber under the spring eye?
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I run the Lakewoods and bent my 40 y.o. mono spring with traction one good time (1.760) and now have the same slappers but with new 4 leaf replacements.

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slapper bars suck in comparision to slide a links or cal tracs!


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Sure they do, AND cars don't run deep into the 10's w/ them either!!

And for the cost, they are good value to me!!

Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: traction bar

You experts can say "slapper bars suck" all you want. I have a friend with a 67 camaro that runs 9.80's and 1.40 60 foot times using...yup you guessed it slapper bars. He's got a nova that runs 10.50's with slapper bars as well. More to the slapper bars than bolting them on....
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You experts can say "slapper bars suck" all you want. I have a friend with a 67 camaro that runs 9.80's and 1.40 60 foot times using...yup you guessed it slapper bars. He's got a nova that runs 10.50's with slapper bars as well. More to the slapper bars than bolting them on....

What kind of bars does he have?
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Re: traction bar

slapper bars was yesterdays technology.
they didnt work that great otherwise the companies that made them wouldnt redesign them.
IMO go for the new tech. it works


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Re: traction bar

Well not to argue.... but.... buddy with a Nova (not the same above) ran slappers into the 10's. Went to Cal-tracts and 60' went up (slowed) which he got back down. He claimed the onlt thing that the Cal-tracts did was allow tunning.

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