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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old May 15th, 08, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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Remanufactured 3rd Gen steering boxes

While shopping for a 3rd gen steering box I have found that I have basically 2 choices from the popular parts suppliers. Cardone or AC Delco. The AC Delco box is a couple of bucks more than Cardone which makes me ask...Is there any difference in the quality of the rebuilt boxes marketed by Cardone verses AC Delco? I have read both good and bad things about Cardone, but not so much about ACDelco. Does anyone have experience with an AC Delco rebuild?

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old May 19th, 08, 06:08 AM Thread Starter
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i don't think you're going to much of a response. how many people can say they've honestly had experiences with both and can compare them? i'm betting close to zero. i've done the swap on both cars and everything is fine with cardone boxes. just keep your receipt and if you're not happy, return it (even though it can be a collosal PITA!).
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I have yet to talk to anyone that has used an ACDelco box! Most guys say that they used the Cardone box, life is good....Amen.

But, there are lots of posts about problems varying from stripped hose threads, to wrong valving, wrong ratio, etc.

Over the weekend I stopped by two local chain part stores. Here are my findings, no bash intended....Neither had ACDelco boxes. The first place had two Cardone boxes in stock. The 1st one the kid brought out looked real ugly. Deep rust pits. It looked like the case had been cranked into a large vise and left deep gouges. It may have been dropped which dented the end cap. I'm not building a show quality car, but please! The 2nd box looked like the output shaft had been beaten with a hammer, probably to get the pitman off without a puller. The nut wouldn’t thread all the way on the shaft.

Next store, also two Cardone boxes in stock. The 1st looked like it came off a donor car then right into a box. Old grease around the seals, a drop of Brown fluid oozed out. The 2nd box counted about 3 ½ - 4 turns stop to stop. Wrong box??

SO, now at this point I have a bad feeling about Cardone boxes even though lots of guys have had good luck with them. Bad day I guess! I am at best a year away from making this car test-driveable. I doubt that any retailer would exchange a mechanical part a year later. I should probably wait to buy and install the box when the time comes. But it would be nice to have it painted, installed, and plumbed before I put the front end sheetmetal back on the car.

I am just trying to research the options available. I never expected to not hear any opionions about ACDelco Rebuilds!!

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When I had my shop I bought alot of Delco parts. Ive also used Cardone, Napa, etc...


Delco is/was always the better quality rebuild of any of them. I never bought a Camaro box but I did buy alot of Chevy truck boxes.

When I bought the 4th gen box for our Camaro I purchased a box from Napa. They had to pull 3 boxes before I got one that turned 2.5 turns lock to lock. (all others were 3.75)

Only issue Ive ever had with Cardone was I had one box (for a customer) that would turn by itself when you started the car. It had "power resist" when trying to turn the opposite.

Ive also bought kits and rebuilt or resealed them myself when I have the time or it was more profitable to do so. (once youve done a couple they are really easy)


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I just decided to go with one rebuilt by Lares:

http://stores.ebay.com/Lares-Corpora...Q3amesstQQtZkm

A bit more expensive than a Cardone rebuild....but with Lares you know exactly what you are getting inside the box, you can use your stock P/S lines, and they supply you with a new rag joint. A bit more expensive than going the Cardone route.....but I thought it was worth the extra $ for piece of mind, and less hassle with a direct bolt in.
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I want to say my rebuilt stock P/S gearbox was rebuilt by Durex.

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I want to say my rebuilt stock P/S gearbox was rebuilt by Durex.

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What or Who is Durex?
Probably none of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durex


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I found a local guy who has 12 guys doing rack rebuilds but he is the only one who does the boxes. He was quite knowledgable and mine came back 110% better then it was!

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I really don't know? I think my box may still be out in the garage, I will look and get back..

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we are still talking about fast ratio/heavy feel boxes (not just rebuilds), right?
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we are still talking about fast ratio/heavy feel boxes (not just rebuilds), right?
Originally I was looking for people that had experience with ACDelco rebuilds. What boxes ya got in mind??

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While shopping for a 3rd gen steering box I have found that I have basically 2 choices from the popular parts suppliers. Cardone or AC Delco. The AC Delco box is a couple of bucks more than Cardone which makes me ask...Is there any difference in the quality of the rebuilt boxes marketed by Cardone verses AC Delco? I have read both good and bad things about Cardone, but not so much about ACDelco. Does anyone have experience with an AC Delco rebuild?

Thanks....Jb
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Not to highjack the thread for a silly question, but what is the advantage of the 3rd gen steering box over the original first gen unit? Smaller? Better? Thanks
read the sticky at the top of the forum. quick answer: it's way fun to drive and looks stock!
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