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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 08, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
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Hotchkis Leaf Springs

I ordered my new Hotchkiss Multi Leaf Springs today from JEGS for my 67 RS/SS.
Whoever restored the car in the 80's put fiberglass mono springs on it and they really sag bad.
I plan on installing them in the next couple of weeks when I get a little free time. i will let you know how they ride.
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Re: Hotchkiss Leaf Springs

Is that your Camaro and if so, did you buy it from Golden Classic.

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Re: Hotchkiss Leaf Springs

I notice your car sits a little high, the Hotchkis leafs are lowering leafs, hope you are aware of that.
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

hmm, they ride great I think, but I have Hotchkis front springs and sway bars to match. They will probably seem like you are driving a truck if you have stock soft springs and the stiff Hotchkis rear springs.
Plus like David said, my car is about 2" lower.

I hope you are replacing the front springs or are ready for the reverse rake.
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Re: Hotchkiss Leaf Springs

Yes
Bought it about 2 1/2 years ago.
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Re: Hotchkiss Leaf Springs

Yes it seems like it sits high but the picture is a few years old and the rear is 4 inchs lower than stock. The new leafs will put it at 1 !/2 inchs below stock
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

I have been shopping around and looking at the different springs out there and I think for the money Hotchkiss is the best.
Funds are limited so if after I put the rear springs on, if the ride isn't right I will change the front to Hotchkiss and go from the there.
I have been reading the threads on this subject for some time and I believe these springs will give me the look and ride I want.
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Congrats. Have had my Hotchkis springs on for about a month now and love em. Wish i had done it sooner.


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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Hey Pirate: Your 1967 looks like a very clean 67. I also bought my 1969 Camaro from Golden Classics and they were very professional to do business with, plus the cars are awesome.

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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

We got the rear springs on last weekend and the car rides nice, but they only lowered the rear about 1/2 inch so it really didnt change the stance much. It was very easy to do, only took about 3 hours to take old mono's off and replace with new 1 1/2 inch lowering Hotchkis Multi Leafs. All we had to do to get them to fit was trim the rubber gaskets to fit in the bracketts and drill the holes bigger for the new U-bolts. I am planning on replacing the front next with shorter springs, thinking about using the 2 inch lowering Hotchkis front springs. Any advice or help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Good to hear. Make sure you torque down the bolts after the cars weight was back on the ground. The fronts were no problem. But i installed new upper and lower ball joints and all Bushings, so it took a little longer then the rears. And again make sure the cars weight is on the ground be for you torque down the bolts.

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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Thanks Skip
I have a question on the springs and the A-Arms for the front .Can I just replace the springs to lower the car and use the original A-Arms ? or do I need to spend the $800.00 on the new Arms. I am going to change out the upper and lower ball joints and all bushings also. Not planing on changing the sway bars but might do tie rods.
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Just us your stock A-Arms.....Make sure the springs are in the right position and double check it, it should be in the grove of the A-Arm at the end of the spring.

Has the back lowered any, maybe loosen the bolts and push up and down then tighten back up.

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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Hotchkis tunes their springs for high performance use. The front rate is twice what stock is, (600) and the rear is pretty close to twice stock too. Springs don't have a large effect on body roll angle, but do have a lot to to with front rise and dive as well as rear squat and rise under acceleration and braking.

If your car has below 400 horsepower, and uses regular sized tires and wheels, the need for springs this stiff is not all that great, the rear leafs can be used, which will control any wheel hop problems, but softer front coils may be a better choice for a smoother ride. The Moog 6308 (380 lbs) is a favorite among members here and works well for a small block Camaro, some heavier cars and 69's prefer a 6320, which will sit around 1/2" higher.

Check the sticky thread on springs for more info.

Stock arms work fine, tubular uppers allow setting more positive camber, which will help cornering, a nice improvement. either way, align the car to have as much positive caster as you can achieve, usually +3 or +3.5 with stock arms, and .25 to .5 degree neg camber. If you drive on the freeway most of the time use .25, if you drive a twisty road now and then the .5 works better. The Guldstrand mod is also a good mod, but if you aren't into cornering hard, it is optional.

I'd still get the Hotchkis front and rear anti roll bars to balance the handling.
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Re: Hotchkis Leaf Springs

Hey David and Skip
I appreciate your help. The Moog 6308 springs sound like what I'm looking for.
And the price is a lot better also. In the part catalogs they say that the Hotchkis Springs are 2 inch lowering springs. Do you guys know how much the Moog 6308's will be ? 1 1/2 or 2 inchs ? I would like for the car to sit a little lower in the front than the back.
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