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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 09, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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problems with my DSE 2" drop coil springs

well I finally got around to installing all of my new front suspension parts.

I did:

SPC upper control arms from SC&C with the tall upper ball joint
stock lower control arms with DSE delrin bushings
2" drop sbc DSE front coil springs.

I can't get the springs to seat properly. The coil ends on the bottom and top of the coil dont match up with the originals and are different. I got everything together, set the car down (its a bare subframe so no front clip/engine/trans) and the suspension was completely maxed out. I had my old man come by and stand on the subframe with me...its almost a combined weight of 500lbs and we were jumping up and down on it and couldnt get the suspension to budge at all. I really upset that i'm having these problems. I went with the DSE because I thought they were supposed to be real good products...and they were more expensive than other companies.

here is a picture of what i'm talking about


in this picture you can see how they are almost the same height as my stockers, and one end of the coil spring isnt made so the spring can lay flat on the ground without falling over like the stockers....its kind of hard to explain, but if you look at the top of this picture you can see how there is a much larger gap between the end of the coil spring and the next coil. The DSE springs are also angled where the tops of the stockers are flat.



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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 09, 07:27 PM
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Re: problems with my DSE 2" drop coil springs

A few thoughts:

The spring end indexes into the notch in the subframe, not in the LCA - let the LCA end of the spring fall where it falls. The notch in the LCA is only for water drainage.

Call DSE and ask them which is top and which is bottom on your spring. That's a goofy looking spring.

When you install new springs and adjustable upper arms, who really knows where your alignment specs are? Chances are when you drop it back on the ground that you have a ton of neg camber due to binding of the A-arms and the total crapshoot on the UCA adjustment, so the front end might sit REALLY high. I wouldn't worry TOO much about right now. If you're able to push the car, push it out of the garage a fair distance and then back in. Your susp should at least come close to its static alignment, which is most likely WAY off.


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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 09, 03:35 PM
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Re: problems with my DSE 2" drop coil springs

I think you are the first member to have an issue with a DSE coil.
Talk to them, they are very nice and helpful people.
What you have is a trimmed coil. I'm a bit surprised they don't have a custom made coil for your application. Cut coils are very common, get the other end fully seated and let the cut end land where it lands. I like to put the cut end down to sit on the lower A arm, it's thicker metal.
I doubt you are going to be able to compress the coils much at all by standing on the subframe. My 67 SB Camaro had a front weight of 1920 lbs, so the weight of two guys is 1/4 of that.
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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 09, 03:42 PM
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Re: problems with my DSE 2" drop coil springs

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My 67 SB Camaro had a front weight of 1920 lbs, so the weight of two guys is 1/4 of that.
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post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 09, 04:02 PM
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Re: problems with my DSE 2" drop coil springs

Agree with David. 2 guys jumping on a bare sub aren't gonna budge those springs.





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