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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Feb 12th, 09, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I'm thinking of getting the Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe. I need to replace all my 42 year old body mounts also. Hotchkis says that it includes urethane front body mounts what else will I need for mounts?


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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I bought those for my 67, will be installing once the body is a little closer to completion. They include only the 2 rear subframe bushings in the kit. I bought this kit from Summit, http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku to replace all of them. That kit included new hardware. I should have bought this one, http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku as it is the same kit but without bolts. The supplied hardware is grade 5 and I won't be using it, so I basically wasted another $30 for bolts I won't use.

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I bought the Hotchkis connectors for my vert, and they are nice. But the only reason I bought Hotchkis is becuase they made the best VERT connector in my opinion. For a coupr, that's awfully expensive. I'd look around if I were you and see what's out there. The "reg'lar" old connectors don't really show on a coupe, and I think you could save some cash. Just my opinion.

I used Speedtech aluminum body mounts. They are things of beauty. I recall them being $125ish. Sad thing is, the rear mounts wouldn't work with my Hotchkis connectors - I had to use the ones Hotchkis supplied.


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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I am very happy w/ my Jegs bolt-on's.

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I think I will go with the Hotchkis and call around to get the best price. What grade bolts do you guys suggest?

Since hotchkis supplies the 2 polyurethane bushings I'm leaning towards doing the whole car with this type. My concern is will they squeak after a few years?

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

I also have the Hotchkis frame connector kit and yes it comes with a new set of Urethane frame bushing and bolts when you attach the frame. Then weld or bolt, i will weld when i get ready to install them. Even with the connectors welded on you can still remove the rear leafs if needed. Also if you want to replace your fuel line you better do it before the connectors are installed.

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

Yes I do want to replace the fuel line and fuel tank. I went from a small block to a BB and I wanted to go with the bigger stock fuel line. Are most 42 year old fuel lines on the brink of failure?

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Yes I do want to replace the fuel line and fuel tank. I went from a small block to a BB and I wanted to go with the bigger stock fuel line. Are most 42 year old fuel lines on the brink of failure?
Big question is how much HP are you shooting for... And it sounds like you have a return line.
I am shooting for 600+ HP and went with 1/2 Stainless Steel already bent but if you are running a return it will be to much. Maybe you can use the stock 3/8 as a return and 1/2 feed...

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To be honest ive herd the the 3/8 line is good up to 600hp. But you have to install the fuel lines first.

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I'm happy at the 375HP and I have no return line just a stock BB fuel pump and the 396 375HP feed line to the carb. i have not had any problems with getting enough fuel.

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I'm happy at the 375HP and I have no return line just a stock BB fuel pump and the 396 375HP feed line to the carb. i have not had any problems with getting enough fuel.
Then go with the pre-bend 3/8 SS line...

This link is what i just went threw.
https://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149857

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

David Pozzi says there is no good reason to use any mount other than solid aluminum. I replaced mine last year. I haven't been able to tell the difference. Maybe because I welded-up the SFC right after bolting it on. The difference was astounding. And I run two Addco HD sway bars. These SFC's are by CE. They can be seen in front of the lift bars. The fuel line and battery cables fit between the SFC's and body easily. And you have to be on your knees to see them.


The condition of the original mounts with the new. (DSE) The new made no difference and the sub frame was a bitch to move away from the body for the installation of the solid mounts. I had to unbolt the rear spring pad that captured the SFC's.


These things need longer bolts. Most vendors don't mention it. The new grade 8's are next to the lone original frame bolt to the right. AND,,,,, two of the new bolts are too large for the radiator support. My bad.

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Re: Hotchkis sub frame connectors for my 67 coupe

Fred did you have any suprises like broken cage nuts or rusty area's around the mounts?

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As BPOS used, the Hotchkis frame connector and Speedtech bushing and bolt kit is a great combo. We have both on the shelf. The frame connectors are 20% off right now making them $276. The Speedtech bushings are $119
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Fred did you have any suprises like broken cage nuts or rusty area's around the mounts?
No johnny, but it hasn't been driven in the rain, on purpose, since 1974. See the paint on the belly sheet metal? Original factory.

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