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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 10th, 09, 05:20 AM Thread Starter
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Hotchkis lowering springs sits too high?

I just installed Hotchkis 2'' lowering springs on my iron head bbc and it sits waaay to high! Will it settle after driving?

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Re: Hotchkis lowering springs sits too high?

Mine settled some after awhile/driving (Hotchkis for small block car). Also make sure you have the springs in correctly and indexed in the spring pockets up inside the frame. If not, that could add some height.
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Mine settled some after awhile/driving (Hotchkis for small block car). Also make sure you have the springs in correctly and indexed in the spring pockets up inside the frame. If not, that could add some height.
X2 Also a wheel alignment will and can change the hight.. I think mine sits from the center of the rim measure from the ground to the fender lip, mine is about 25 3/4 inches....

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OR.. you just need a bigger big block? : )
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Measure from the center of the wheel (hub) up to the fender lip.

I have the small block Hotchkis drop springs and mine measure:

Front: +-1/8" of 12"
Rear: +-1/8" of 12 1/2" (no upper pad installed which would have made it about 3/16" lower.)

It's been years and at most there was less than 1/4" of settling and that happened right away.


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I had this problem, and it was because of my KYB shocks. The shocks would not compress, with the weight of the car. I switched them back to Monroes, and the front dropped about 1 1/2" immediately.

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Re: Hotchkis lowering springs sits too high?

Mine sits exactly 16'' from center of rim to wheel well. I noticed that there was this piece of aluminum in the shape of a half moon kinda like a spacer under the stock springs. I put it back in. Can I take it out? Here is what it looks like without shocks.

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You definitely have something wrong there! Take out the spacers. Check the p/n on the springs against the p/n on the box to make sure they are the right ones. Both ends of the spring should be wound open and not have a flat ground end similar to a valve spring. I would measure the wire diameter and free height then call hotchkis with those measurements.

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You definitely have something wrong there! Take out the spacers. Check the p/n on the springs against the p/n on the box to make sure they are the right ones. Both ends of the spring should be wound open and not have a flat ground end similar to a valve spring. I would measure the wire diameter and free height then call hotchkis with those measurements.
The part number matched the box.

I did not know if they were spacers or something to make the spring sit flat. I will take out them out.

The springs did have a flat spot at the end just like a valve spring.

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So there is not supposed to be these "spacers" in? I will take them out! I think it will sit perfect without these. Thanks guys

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Re: Hotchkis lowering springs sits too high?

those spacers are not original thay are something somebody added problably to take the sag out of the old springs
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those spacers are not original thay are something somebody added problably to take the sag out of the old springs
Thank you! I will take them out .

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Re: Hotchkis lowering springs sits too high?

Those are spring shims, probably from Global West. Your springs ends should fit into the grove in the bottom. You may have to turn them until the end sits down and locks into the grove. I have the TVS SB kit on my 67 with the Bilstein shocks.

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Those are spring shims, probably from Global West. Your springs ends should fit into the grove in the bottom. You may have to turn them until the end sits down and locks into the grove. I have the TVS SB kit on my 67 with the Bilstein shocks.
Half right, half wrong. Those ARE spring spacers, and they will raise the height by approx DOUBLE the the thickness of the spacer. Get 'em out of there. The spring end should NOT index into the groove in the LCA. It should index into the subframe. Feel around up there and you'll find the notch for the spring tail. The groove in the LCA is for water drainage. Let that end of the spring fall where it falls. Only worry about the top end of the spring.


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Half right, half wrong. Those ARE spring spacers, and they will raise the height by approx DOUBLE the the thickness of the spacer. Get 'em out of there. The spring end should NOT index into the groove in the LCA. It should index into the subframe. Feel around up there and you'll find the notch for the spring tail. The groove in the LCA is for water drainage. Let that end of the spring fall where it falls. Only worry about the top end of the spring.
Thanks Al. I will be taking them out this weekend!

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