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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 09, 08:33 AM Thread Starter
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Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

I am planning on upgrading the front non power drum brakes on my 68 to power disc. Has anyone used this kit from Rick's?

http://www.rickscamaros.com/product....ts-_-AB-80-_-X

It says it uses the stock drum spindles. Do you still have to cut off the boss from the old spindle?

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 09, 08:53 AM
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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

Sounds like you don't have to. Otherwise, it would say it uses disc spindles.


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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

would this be a better thing to do, rather than getting new repo spindles?
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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

Dave there are kits out there that are only $125 more and you get new spindles and a new master cylinder and booster. Not only will you have a nicer looking engine bay and power assisted brakes but the safety of new spindles compared to 40 year old ones. Here is one example.

http://www.mattsclassicbowties.com/index1.html

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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

I'm not sure my motor makes enough vacuum to run a booster. I don't know exactly what vacuum it pulls. I will have to get it measured
What is the preferred size booster and setup for a low vacuum motor.? What is the minimum vacuum a booster can run on?
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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

Rick seems to like to stretch the truth quite often. That will not move your wheels in 1/2". It uses your existing drum hubs, so your wheels are essentially exactly where they were when you started. Technically, they will move out about 3/16" since the rotor is thicker than the drum it replaced. It is true that the drum brakes are located inward about 3/8" from factory disc brake cars. He also states some of the items he sells are USA made when they're made in China.
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Dave there are kits out there that are only $125 more and you get new spindles and a new master cylinder and booster. Not only will you have a nicer looking engine bay and power assisted brakes but the safety of new spindles compared to 40 year old ones. Here is one example.

http://www.mattsclassicbowties.com/index1.html
Additionally, if you care to look there are many other vendors on Ebay selling the exact same repop kits for even less.
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I'm not sure my motor makes enough vacuum to run a booster. I don't know exactly what vacuum it pulls. I will have to get it measured
What is the preferred size booster and setup for a low vacuum motor.? What is the minimum vacuum a booster can run on?
Matt's Classic told me that they recommend the 11" booster for the small-block and recommended 16 inches of vacuum to run four wheel discs with the best performance. I know there are people running with less and I'm going to try it myself seeing as how I no longer live in Atlanta so my foot no longer stays attached to the brake.

Their tech told me to try my setup and if it wound up needing more vacuum to buy a cheap accumulator tank from Jeg's or Summit or they had vacuum pumps for a couple hundred $. I think if you're not constantly on the brakes, you can get away with less vacuum but I have no first-hand experience.

By the way, johnny67 is right. Matt's complete front power disc kit is only a little more and comes with spindles, lines, and the correct proportioning valve and dual ported master cylinder to actually make the disc/drum combo work correctly. I don't know how much trouble it is to make it work right by just bolting on discs. Give them a call and they may be able to do a manual kit for you.

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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

Thanks for all the great help everyone. I will be going with the kit from Matt's. I think I will have to save up a bit more and get new 15x7 rally rims and tires for the front (currently have 14"front and 15" rear) and get a vacuum reservoir. Seems like the simplest and best solution.

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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

I kind of like the idea of useing the drum spindles. I prefer the disk and hub as seperate parts......

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Re: Using Drum Spindle in Disc Conversion from Rick's

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Thanks for all the great help everyone. I will be going with the kit from Matt's. I think I will have to save up a bit more and get new 15x7 rally rims and tires for the front (currently have 14"front and 15" rear) and get a vacuum reservoir. Seems like the simplest and best solution.

Dave

Dave, what is your vacuum at now?? they recommend 15" to 20" of boost is the Chilton's manual for power brakes. You should buy a vacuum tester from your local parts store, it is a great tool to have in your kit and I don't think they are very costly. Another member on the forum said that some 14" rims do clear the disc brakes but I will let an expert here verify that.

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