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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old Oct 2nd, 09, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

Any photos of this? My original leafs are so old, I am afraid new drop leafs springs may raise my car! Not sure what to put on 1.5 lower or 3"?

17" old school rims with 275/40/17

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Also, suggested shock brand?

Thank you all!!!

PS, after posting, saw the 69 photos and comments from Hotchkiss on 3" springs. No info on 68's though.

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old Oct 2nd, 09, 07:55 PM
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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

You fear of your car sitting higher then it does now with 1 1/2" springs is well founded. Often times original springs are saging more then 1 1/2" from original, especially mono leaf springs. The 1 1/2" drop is from stock orignal which is pretty damn high.

For shocks it is a no brainer, Hotchkis / Bilstien are valved for their springs. If you want some adjustability I can do QA1 12 way shocks.

Which ever you decide we do have all Hotchkis and QA1 on a killer sale.

For reference, here is a pair of 67s we did with the 1 1/2" Hotchkis kits.




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17" Wheels are old school ? I would say 14" or 15" is old school.

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

MB old school is the brand used alot on this site.

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I see now ! That still is a strange name for something that isn't really "old school".

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

Hotchkis recommends that their 3" drop leafs be used with a 3" drop up fornt. Of course the standard drop spring up front is 2". Curious how people are gaining an extra inch. (um....that came out wrong)

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

Frank,
How much drop does the front of the black '67 have? That's close to the height I'm looking for in the front.
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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

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Hotchkis recommends that their 3" drop leafs be used with a 3" drop up fornt. Curious how people are gaining an extra inch. (um....that came out wrong)
They are probably removing the lower bump stops from the lower "a" arms. i had to severly reduce mine with the hotchkis 2" drop springs.

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

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Frank,
How much drop does the front of the black '67 have? That's close to the height I'm looking for in the front.
Both those car have 17" wheels and both cars have Hotchkis TVS kits on them. So the standard 1 1/2" to 2" drop
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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

Frank, Can you run the Hotchkiss rear swaybar with a stock 12Bolt that has the factory traction bar? Also, can the Hotchkiss rear multi-leafs be used with a single leaf bracketed 12Bolt? Thanks-

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Both those car have 17" wheels and both cars have Hotchkis TVS kits on them. So the standard 1 1/2" to 2" drop
Thanks for the info. Maybe I won't need to go as low as I had expected.
Do you happen to know the difference in these pics between the two cars? The front of the black one looks noticeably lower than the blue.

on a side note... do you typically do a staggered drop? IMO, the rear should go down another 1.5" to 2". Would this be a total of 1.5-2 front and 3-3.5 rear?
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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

I think it is different camera angle and wheel well molding and no wheel well moldings. They are pretty close to the same.

As for staggering, that is the regular TVS kit.
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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

Prodigy Customs has got it covered. Nice looking cars!

Melrose RS - The rear sway bar cannot be used on the 1967 Camaro with the traction bar in place. If you remove the traction bar the sway bar can be used. Our Leafsprings can be used on Mono or Multi leaf cars. You can review the instructions for specific tips on trimming the pads.

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

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Prodigy Customs has got it covered. Nice looking cars!

Melrose RS - The rear sway bar cannot be used on the 1967 Camaro with the traction bar in place. If you remove the traction bar the sway bar can be used. Our Leafsprings can be used on Mono or Multi leaf cars. You can review the instructions for specific tips on trimming the pads.
Thanks, but I still need clarification. When you say "remove the traction bar" do you mean unbolt it or must the bracket which is welded to the axle tube be permanently cut off?

Thanks again.

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Re: Hotchkiss lowering rear 1.5" or 3"

So the big question is, if you use the 2" Lowering springs in the front that every one has been doing, do you put 1.5 drop or 3" drop in the rear leafs?

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