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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 10, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

Hi all:

I put a new rear end in my 68 RS along with new leaf springs.
I just put wheels and tires on for the first time so I could get it off the jack stands and roll it around.
There is a 1" space between the front of the rear wheel and the quarter panel...and there is a 3" space between the rear of the wheel and the quarter panel. It is similar on the other side of the car.
Is correcting this as simple as moving the entire rear end back an inch?


I attached a pic showing what I am talking about. I asked Buster, but as you can tell from the 2nd pic, he wasn't too interested in helping

Thanks.

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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

I'd guess that the alignment pin isn't in the hole. Either that or it's the wrong spring.
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post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 10, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

I am using steel spacers instead of the rubber spring pads. I have the alignment pins on the springs in the holes in the spacers. Without the bushings like the rubber pads had, I could only try and line everything up the best I could by eyeballing it. I guess my eyeballs aren't what they used to be.

Would it be a bad idea to remove the pin in the spring and bolt the two steel spacers and springs together with a grade 8 bolt? Then the head of the bolt can slip into the alignment hole in the spring perch. Just one of my many crazy thoughts.

Thanks for the help.
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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 8th, 10, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

Do the bushings on the rubber pads provide any strength or are they just there for alignment?
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

Just a guess but are the springs backwards?


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post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 8th, 10, 08:25 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

That is a good question!
They are Summit lowering springs. They came with rubber bushings on one end and nothing on the other.
I installed the springs with the rubber bushings towards the front of the car. Then I put poly bushings for the shackles.
Did I put them in backwards?
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

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That is a good question!
They are Summit lowering springs. They came with rubber bushings on one end and nothing on the other.
I installed the springs with the rubber bushings towards the front of the car. Then I put poly bushings for the shackles.
Did I put them in backwards?
You will find out when you try to install the driveshaft. If the driveshaft appears to be too long the springs may be backwards.

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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

Thank you for the reply.
The car currently has no motor, no trans and no driveshaft so I have nothing to go by.
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

throw a bunch of weight in the trunk and see how it looks at ride height.
if you've got the rear axle bolted to the springs in the right spot, then i'd think that maybe you've got the wrong springs or they were made wrong.

you don't plan sincerity.
you have to make it up on the spot.

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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 8th, 10, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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I'll pull it apart and check to make sure the axle is bolted in the right spot this weekend. Hopefully that will straighten everything out.
Thanks for the help.
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Would it be a bad idea to remove the pin in the spring and bolt the two steel spacers and springs together with a grade 8 bolt? Then the head of the bolt can slip into the alignment hole in the spring perch. Just one of my many crazy thoughts.

Thanks for the help.
This is exactly what I did. Just clamp the leaves together so they don't come apart.

That said, do you think you missed the alignment pin in the springs by an inch? Loosen everything up and find the pin.

Either the rear end is off the pin or the springs are wrong.
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 9th, 10, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

The alignment pins in the new springs were not long enough to protrude from the steel plates. I thought I had them lined up...
Tomorrow I will pull the pins out and put some longer bolts in. Then I will reinstall everything.
Hopefully this will correct the issue.

Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

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That is a good question!
They are Summit lowering springs. They came with rubber bushings on one end and nothing on the other.
I installed the springs with the rubber bushings towards the front of the car. Then I put poly bushings for the shackles.
Did I put them in backwards?
You did that correct. The pre-installed rubber bushings are the fronts.


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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 10th, 10, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Dustin.
That is one part of the install that I don't have to redo.
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 16th, 10, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Uneven spaces inside wheel wells

Well, I unbolted the rear and replaced the locating pins on the leaf springs with bolts. I bolted the steel plates and the springs together. The head of the bolt slipped right into the locating holes in the spring perches, so now I am sure it is in the right place.
I bolted everything back together and lowered the car to the ground.
The gap behind the wheel is still larger than the gap in front of the wheel (about an inch difference).
I think it is more noticeable because I have larger tires on it. I'll only be using these tires to roll the car around while I work on it. I will be putting different tires on it before it sees the road.
If the gaps are not as noticeable when I put the other tires on it, I can live with it.
Thanks for all the suggestions.

68RS Project - taking much longer than expected
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