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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 10, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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March Performance power steering pump problems!

Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my March Performance power steering pump. It keeps spitting the fluid out of the top of the tiny dipstick hole. I just filled it a couple of days ago because I noticed it whining and found fluid all over the pump. I filled it and now, its whining again. Its definitely coming out of the dipstick hole though. You can see the dipstick just to the left of the valve covers on top of the power steering pump. Anyone else have this problem or know what's going on? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 10, 07:30 PM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

Did you purge everything at install before starting it?

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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

I actually bought the car about 2 months ago. The car went through an extensive restoration back in the early 1990's. When I bought the car the motor only had about 500 miles on it since the rebuild so I have no idea whether or not it was purged. The car itself only had 72,000 miles on it when it was last registered in 1990. Its got 76,000 on it now.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 10, 07:57 PM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

It could have been overfilled. The hotter they are, the higher the fluid should read. On a Saginaw the fluid barely touches the stick when cold.

Usually though if it gets air in it it'll make an ungodly noise and you should be able to see foaming or bubbles in it.

For future reference if you ever swap out a pump or box, here's how you purge one.

-Fill the box and fill the pump up to the "full cold" mark.
-Lift the front tires just off the ground.
-Slowly turn the steering wheel lock to lock at least ten times. Keep adding fluid as needed.
-Start the car do the same as above until fluid level stabilizes.

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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 10, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

It has never made an ungodly noise. Just a bit of whining when the fluid gets too low. Even if it was overfilled, it keeps spitting too much out. I've got a noisy gear drive and I can hear the whining over that! I haven't noticed any foaming when I've looked down into it. The dipstick itself is only about 2 1/2 inches long and it doesn't have any marks on it. Right now it will just barely touch the dipstick as long as I thread it all the way in. But even that way it is still whining.
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 11:55 AM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

Sounds like it has air, bleed it.
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

Thanks! I'll give that a try and see what happens!!
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 05:12 PM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

Since you're essentially the second owner it could've been damaged by the previous owner. If they didn't do the bleed procedure when they installed it, it doesn't take long to burn one up. Basically once you start one with air in it it's almost like running it dry. It's pretty easy to do an "oops" on something and have it run for a few hundred miles before it rears its ugly head.

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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 10:43 PM Thread Starter
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

Well, I lifted the front wheels off the ground, went from lock to lock about 10 times making sure it stayed full. Then I started it and went from lock to lock again making sure it was full. I lowered the car, made sure the level was good and went for a drive. It started whining about an hour later. Popped the hood and it had spit the majority of the fluid out of the dipstick hole again. I've never seen a hole on a regular style power steering pump dipstick before. Wonder what would happen if I attempted to plug it. While I was purging it I watched it shoot up out of the hole about 6 inches! The pump doesn't make any irregular noise when its full. I just hope I don't have to replace this pump. I have no idea what this particular March Performance pump runs but I know its not cheap. I haven't seen it on any of the websites. What to do...what to do?!
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 10:53 PM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

The valve may be bad.
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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 10, 10:56 PM Thread Starter
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

The valve in the pump? I still can't find this particular pump model. Go figure!
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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 24th, 10, 12:49 PM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

I don't think you bled it properly. I had this exact thing happen on a 67 Chevelle. I raised it turned wheels both ways many time, still puked. I then read one of my old shop manuals and it specifically said to turn the wheels to one side, I forget if it was left or right but it layed out a specific method, I did it and the puking stopped and all was well. I'll look up the instructions today and post what it says.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 11, 11:38 AM
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Re: March Performance power steering pump problems!

I was searching forums to see if anyone has come across the same problem I had. I purchased a March Performance system and the brand New Power Steering pump and alternator were both bad. Not real happy especially when they donít stand behind their product. Change out the pump and see if the problem goes away. The pump will run you about $50 bucks.
Good Luck.

FYI.. I had a yellow top battery installed NEW at the time the alternator. And all new power steering hoses and gear box at the time that March system went in.
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