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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old Aug 20th, 10, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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69 Camaro steering pics

Hello, i bought this camaro about two months ago, i was looking around the engine and something didnt look right, if you look at the pic where the steering colum and the steering box meet the flange looks bent and/ or possibly not bolted properly. i also took some pics of the rest of the engine area incase you spot something else that aint right wich is problaly going to be alot, thanks
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old Aug 20th, 10, 09:54 PM
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Re: 69 camaro steering pics

Looks like the flange on the end of your steering column is bent. The steering column isn't too hard to take out. I'd do that and try to straighten it. It also looks like the engine is sitting centered in the engine bay. BBs origianlly sat about 3/4" towards the passenger side for more clearance between the exhaust manifolds and the steering box. I woldn't worry about that if everything is working, though.

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Re: 69 Camaro steering pics

It's SURELY not bolted all the way together!!! You can see the two bolts are not torqued down yet. Looks like it was put together and then they forgot to finish tightening the bolts.

Looking at it closer, the flange might be bent, but it could be just the photos. Is the column attached at the dash properly? All the brackets and bolts holding it together and to it's mounting points? It looks like the column is hanging down a little, making the shaft at the steering box look crooked.

Looks like my engine bay... ZipTies holding stuff.
Oh... and the oil fill cap is upsidedown.

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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 10, 08:10 AM
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Re: 69 Camaro steering pics

Your flexible steering shaft coupling is being pulled apart! Not a good situation from a safety standpoint! The rubber disc in the flexible coupling should be flat as it connects to the steering column flange. Also the stop pins extending from the coupling itself should be central in the column flange slots and extending up through the slot by 1/4 inch or so.


Here are a couple possible causes of this problem.
The steering gear is bolted to the engine cradle and there is no adjustment possible in this gear to frame attachment. However, is it possible that the cradle (front end) was damaged in an accident?

If the gear is correctly located, then the problem has to be in the steering column itself or in the mounting of the steering column to the body.

I see that you have a standard (non-adjustable) steering column. This scan is of a 1969 F-Car tilt column lower end. You will note that there is a 2.00 dimension from the lower face of the steering column flange back to the face of the lower bearing retainer. Although your standard column parts may look a little different, that 2.00 dimension should still be valid. The steering column shaft is designed to telescope back into the steering column in the case of a severe frontal collision. (It is also possible to telescope the steering shaft back into the column by prying on the flex coupling or by careless handling of the column when it is out of the car.)

So if you can measure that 2.00 distance on your column then that will answer the question as to the steering shaft being collapsed into the column. BTW, the steering shaft always seems to telescope back into the column a lot easier than it comes back out. If needed, you want to pull it out to that 2.00 dimension with a steady pull -- not hammering on the flange. You can damage the steering column bearings by hammering.

If the gear is correct and the steering column shaft 2.00 dimension is correct, then the problem must be in the steering column mounting. There is a slight amount of adjustment possible in the two vertical attachment fasteners as well as the clamping of the column jacket to the vehicle body (down by your feet.) You will want to try and position the steering column down into the body further than it is currently. You must also make sure that the column mounting keeps the column aligned to the steering gear. When you are done installing the column; the rubber coupling disc must be flat and the stop pins central in the column flange slots. Rotate your steering wheel one quarter turn and recheck that the stop pins are still central.

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