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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 25th, 10, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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steering linkage off

I have 68. New steering components accept center link. Upgraded to cardone 6550 power steering box. Both idler arm and pitman are 5.75. Idler arm is hitting new dougs d368 headers about 1/2 inch before hitting stop on lower control arm. Seems like steering box is off just about 1/8 of a revolution because when pitman is straight forward the idler arm is a little toward engine. Is there a way to adjust steering box a hair, or is something else wrong. My new dorman rag joint also seems wrong. The bolt is on engine side comming up from the bottom whereas all pictures I have seen show it on outboard side with bolt comming from top. There is a flat spot on steering box shaft that is right at top that must be turned a little toword engine to get rag joint pins verticle. Should this flat spot stay at very top of shaft? Thanks in advance
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 25th, 10, 09:07 PM
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Re: steering linkage off

I think others have had issues with the D368 hitting the idler arm especially if it's an aftermarket one. As for the coupler, it's not an issue just the way they made the coupler. Mine is the same way with the bolt having to go in from the bottom. I think with the pitman arm straight forward and box on center the bolt head will be straight down on the Dorman coupler and your locator pin should be straight up at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock which will put your steering wheel straight up. It's possible that you'll need an alignment after install to get the wheel center and tires straight again. Mine is off just a smidge.

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post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 25th, 10, 09:53 PM
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Re: steering linkage off

Is your idler hitting the #4 tube on a hard right turn? Never heard of that one. I have heard of the ball/socket part of the idler hitting the #6 tube.(some aftermarket idler arms) Any chance you have your small block sitting on BB frame stands?

Side note - The Cardone box, being a reman unit - well, who knows the history of it such as previous wrecks or curb jobs. Mine is horrible.


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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 10, 05:56 AM Thread Starter
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Re: steering linkage off

The ball socket is hitting one of the tubes, and when I turn the wheel all the way the end of the idler is hitting a tube also. It is a moser idler. I am not sure what number tube I will have to go and look. I centered the steering box from side to side when I installed it and pitman could not go on any other way to match up the splines, or it would have been way off. I wonder if geering in steering box was put together a tooth or two off?
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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 10, 08:35 AM
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The "stock" idler arm will clear. An aftermarket may not fit. Moog idler arms are known to hit a tube on the D368's. The D308's do not have this issue.

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post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 10, 05:58 AM Thread Starter
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Re: steering linkage off

idler knuckle is hitting tube 4 and when I make a hard right the arm is hitting tube 6. I guess I could just dimple the header pipes to create clearance. I could not send them back without a big restock fee. I read before purchase but did not read anything about idler clearance issues just steering box issues.
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