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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jan 7th, 14, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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S10 Steering box on 69

Hey just wondering if it is possible to put a 2002 S10 power steering box into a 69 Camaro. Right now I have the original manual steering but I'm taking the car in a pro touring direction and need fast ratio power steering. What all would I need to convert the car to power steering? I'm pretty sure I have to change the pitman arm for a powersteering 69 camaro one, correct?
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Re: S10 Steering box on 69

Just from reading threads on here I know the popular conversion is an Ircoc gear box and yes, you will have to change the pitman arm.

Eventually I would like to go to rack and pinion steering but that conversion is not cheap either.
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From all the research and discussions I've had, this is the best box you can buy for the $$$, This is what I'm going with for my Pro Touring car

http://scandc.com/new/node/246

Talk to Mark, he's written books on this stuff and is GREAT to deal with.

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Re: S10 Steering box on 69

Get a 82 IROC steering box from Autozone for $116. and the Lee fittings for the hoses. Your good to go on a budget. I also installed a smaller Vette steering tilt wheel. Got the new repo leather 3 spoke wheel on line for $76, and the tilt from a Chevelle for $75. Built my 69 RS/SS BB (from a suberban) 4 speed (from a 78 TA) Black on white on a budget of less than $20k and have won first place every time as well as BIS, paint and engine. I bought a pristine bodied car to begin no junk. . . .costs more in the long run. . . .just an old guy talkin
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Re: S10 Steering box on 69

Thanks for the help, and yea I am on a bit of a budget so the IROC box looks like the best bet right now. I already have the original tilt and an ss wheel and everything so I'm pretty much set there. Found an IROC box on eBay for a deal, just rebuilt with high speed gears so I'll probably end up buying that. Should be better than the sloppy manual box on it with 150xxx miles...
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Oh and just to be clear, if I bought a 2.5 turn 1990 iroc box is it a "bolt on" or will I need to change the rag joint or hose fittings?
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you need to change the rag joint, get the PS line adapters, and get a PS Pitman arm for a Camaro or Nova.
also be prepared to take the driver's side header out and ding a tube or 2 depending on how the motor mounts place the engine relative to the steering box and which brand of headers you have.

you don't plan sincerity.
you have to make it up on the spot.

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Alright so it looks like I'm gonna end up going with the cardone 6550 box, this is the quick ratio box correct? I have no power steering parts on my car so I was wondering if there is a late model camaro pump I could buy so I don't need to change the valve or fittings. Thanks
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Re: S10 Steering box on 69

Just completed this conversion on mine, although I had power to begin with. You need the 27-6550 box, gm coupler 7818568 or dorman 31011, and the fittings from Lees manufacturing 40630 and 40620 (or if you wanted to use AN fittings these work; 6AN to 16X1.5 inverted flare w/o-ring, and 8AN to 18X1.5 inverted flare w/ o-ring). As far as the manual to power swap, Moog K6582 is the # for the long pitman arm. You will obviously need a pump and resevoir, lines, and I would think about throwing a power steering cooler in the mix as well.

Here is a link to some info on it
http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html

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Damn those part numbers helped alot, thanks man.
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Just completed this conversion on mine, although I had power to begin with. You need the 27-6550 box, gm coupler 7818568 or dorman 31011, and the fittings from Lees manufacturing 40630 and 40620 (or if you wanted to use AN fittings these work; 6AN to 16X1.5 inverted flare w/o-ring, and 8AN to 18X1.5 inverted flare w/ o-ring). As far as the manual to power swap, Moog K6582 is the # for the long pitman arm. You will obviously need a pump and resevoir, lines, and I would think about throwing a power steering cooler in the mix as well.

Here is a link to some info on it
http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html
is the cardone 27-6550 box a 12:7:1 quick ratio?

if so, youd need then, (already have existing power steering)

cardone 27-6550 steering box ($116 at advance auto)
dorman 31011 coupler ($47.97 at summit)
Lees manufacturing fittings 40630 and 40620 (no idea on cost, I'd need to call them)

am I missing anything? that all just bolts right up, right?

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Re: S10 Steering box on 69

Thats the box, 2.5 turns lock to lock.

I dont have any experience on the lees fittings so dont quote me on it, (I used all AN fittings and hose on mine.) From what I have read they convert your stock PS lines to the IROC box.

Thats all you need, it all just bolts right up.

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Thats the box, 2.5 turns lock to lock.

I dont have any experience on the lees fittings so dont quote me on it, (I used all AN fittings and hose on mine.) From what I have read they convert your stock PS lines to the IROC box.

Thats all you need, it all just bolts right up.
great, thanks man!!

I called Lee's manufacturing today....they sell a "kit" to use with this steering box

comes with there fittings, and the coupler for $78 shipped.....so total for quick ratio steering is looking like $78+$116=$194. Now that's more like it!

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