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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 22nd, 14, 11:09 PM Thread Starter
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Baer Brake Install questions

Hey guys -

I am in the process of installing Baer brakes and all four corners and having all sorts of issues. The instructions are very misleading and confusing. The main problem is in the rear. I am using the SS4 kit.

When mounting the caliper to the caliper bracket, the bolts that they supply go through a bushing/sleeve that doesn't allow the caliper to mount solid as the sleeve is too long. It's almost as if the caliper is meant to be a floating style caliper but I have never seen that on a multi-piston set-up. For that matter, the step after mounting the caliper is to shim the caliper to center it perfectly. The bushing is about an 1/8inch of too long so the caliper can slide back and forth making it impossible to shim accurately. I attached pictures to show what I am talking about. Hopefully you can see what I mean and tell me what I am doing wrong.

The second question I have is what is a CSV? Baer calls it a centering stablizer valve but doesn't explain what it's for. Any ideas what it is and/or how the brake lines mount?

I am hoping my questions make sense to those of you have installed/seen a Baer set-up. Thanks for your help!
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 14, 06:32 AM
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

I'll take a stab at this, I'm no expert for sure.

The rear calipers do need to float because the axle will move in and out, it's not a solid mount like a front hub or spindle.

That CSV, I think they mean proportioning valve.

Just a guess on the second one.

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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 14, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

Hmm. The axle point makes sense but then why would they have you shim the caliper bracket getting it within 0.005" variance when the caliper itself can slide up to an 1/8" on the sleeves.

Baer is such a high end product that I feel like I am missing something obvious.

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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

Generally speaking, a floating caliper will have piston(s) on only one side of the rotor and a fixed caliper will have piston(s) on both sides. Which are yours?


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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 14, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

It's a four piston caliper. Two on each side so I assumed the same in that it should be fixed. I did just find a video on YouTube showing an install and they claim it IS a floating caliper and no shimming is required. Super frustrating.

If anybody is reading this and goes with Baer, be warned that the install instructions are terrible. This goes for both the front and rear set ups. PM if you have questions as I think I have gotten around most of them.

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 20, 06:23 PM
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

Any updates on this? I am having the same issue today but the loop was never closed on this post.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 20, 06:32 PM
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

The last post on this thread was 6 years ago.
And the OP hasnít been here for 5 1/2 years.
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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 20, 08:22 AM
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

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The last post on this thread was 6 years ago.
And the OP hasnít been here for 5 1/2 years.
Bummer - It's always nice when people close the loop on their questions for future searches.

Since he didn't, I will.

I called Baer. This feature is referred to as their Veri-Slide system to counter the movement of the C-Clip axles. There should be an extra instruction sheet in with the calipers to explain the adjustment to =.020" on each side.
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Re: Baer Brake Install questions

If you don't have Positraction, the axle end play will be fairly high. I would shim behind the C clips to reduce end play. A friend used valve spring shims. A new Positraction unit will be good but as they wear the end play increases. There are shim kits for the Eaton Positraction units available from Summit Racing and others. With the floater calipers you should be OK even if the Positraction is worn a bit.

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