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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Sep 29th, 01, 05:25 AM Thread Starter
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Im not sure what caused it, and I want to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I just left a light (luckily only driving 20mph) and my upper ball joint or the "ball" pulled right out of the "joint".
It looked like I was road racing real hard and broke it but I wasn't. So I was wondering if it was a defect in the Balljoint. It fairly new 1yr maybe 2years old since put in. The "joint still had grease in it.

I hope someone can help. Im a little gun shy now. It scared the hell out of me. I cant image this a 70 mph!!!

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Wow! That is scary! Bummer. The first thing that comes to mind is, what brand? Defective part maybe? I can't think of another reason the socket would pull apart like that myself.
I've only seen it once. When my RS was hit at 60 MPH.
Anybody else?

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Had to be a defective part or incorrect installation; the upper ball joint has almost no load on it at all except under braking; it just "follows" the spindle and has no spring stress on it.

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I would not use any ball joints except the Moog brand.
Does your ball joint show any lack of lubrication?
All new ball joints should be lubed until you can see the grease coming out of the rubber boot.
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Yes it still had grease in it.

I wondering if is at a wierd "stress"
angle due to improper alignment or wwrong springs. ( I wanting to change springs).


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Think you may have just been unlucky with that one. Hard to incorrectly install that part, TRW and Moog for my money next time.

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The installation or alignment should not have much effect on it.
It must have been defective.
Check the other side very carefully. I think I'd change them both.
Did the ball fail, or was it the housing/socket that failed?
Where did you by them?
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You guys have me worried now, are PST(Performance Suspension Technology)parts any good. I installed upper and lower ball joint to my car prior to the body work but didn't thought much about the brand...

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you've definitly got my attention. I bought my stuff from PSC. The box says man. by
Federal Mogul. Any problem here?
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Federal Mogul should be the same as Moog. Federal Mogul now owns Moog and TRW.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davidpozzi:
Federal Mogul should be the same as Moog. Federal Mogul now owns Moog and TRW.
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David, that may not be the case. There is a pretty obvious difference in the castings of Federal Mogul water pumps and the TRW pumps.
The Federal Mogul pimp had a real rough oily casting (like the cheap brands). I took it back for a TRW. It looked like the original GM.
Don't know how their other parts are.
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Joe G,

I tend to agree with you, the TRW parts are a more authentic item. There can be problems with some manufacturers, but over the years I have had very little come back with TRW parts. However, now that the major companies are combining in some way or another who knows what the future holds for quality!!

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post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 01, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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David and others

Im pretty sure it was a MOOG part because most everyone convinced me of their quality.

I replaced with a TRW and it looks the same.

Also, to answer the other question. The "BALL" was just fine. It was the "housing" that the ball pulled out of.

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David??? Any idea if Federal Mogul will be effected in the Vehicle parts area since they filed for Chapter 11 protection?
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It looks like TRW is not affiliated with Federal Mougl.
Fed Mogul DOES own Moog however.
I once ordered a pair of Moog ball joints and the local jobber got a pair of TRW balljoints in - inside the boxes were balljoints stamped MOOG!
I can only guess TRW buys some of their low volume sales parts from other manufacturers like Moog.

I looked around the net a little, and found some mention of Fed Mogul trying to avoid or structure debt payment of Asbestos lawsuit claims. Filing Chapter 11 would allow other divisions to continue operations undisturbed by the asbestos payment obligations. Does Federal Mogul own Wagner? They must own a big brake lining manufacturer and have claims against that division.
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