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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 03, 05:06 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone using one of these? A guy with a brand new FR chrome race unit (new in box - goes for around $600) wants to trade for some engine parts from my recent rebuild (eagle h-beams, Wiseco's, Crane hydraulic cam/lifters) The guy bought 2 units from FR for 2 car restos and could only finish one - a 67 camaro. I'm tempted as I could free up some hp and room in the engine bay. Many say I'll regret going from power to manual as my car is primarily street, but won't be a daily driver. I'm not sure it would be as bad as some say, and I'm curious if this FR unit might make it more tolerable. Also, since I'm installing new GW upper/lower front tubulars with coil overs, this might make a difference as well.


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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 03, 06:25 AM
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I don't know if you have driven an early Camaro without power steering, but I have and it's not fun. If the car wasn't driven much maybe, but PS sure makes the car more enjoyable to drive.


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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 03, 08:03 AM
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All I'm gonna say that my car with the stock non-power option along with Cragar deep dish chrome reverse, 14 x 6 rims and just stock D-70's was such a bear to try to parallel park that I just never did it if at all possible to find a straight in parking space!!!!

I'm going P/S with my big engine now b/c I have had enough of that crap!!!

BUT it sure did go down the road really well, imho!!! Very responsive!!


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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 03, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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pdq - got it! It's just darn hard to pass up that shiny new box that fits so perfectly with the rest of my FR setup. BTW, I haven't had to parallel park in years - the chances of needing to do that are slim-o-mundo. But....just that one time and I'd probably be saying, "Now what was that about paralleling with manual steering...?".

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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 28th, 03, 05:10 AM
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I rebuilt the manual box in my 69z and still wish it were power. I currently run a 205/70/15 and it is tough to parallel park. But its not that it's the rather slow ratio that really bothers me. I would like to put a little wider front tire on it to get better handling but I can't see it with this slow ratio hard steering box. If you want all out drag performance then do it but in reality it probably won't mak that much difference in 1/4 performance. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 28th, 03, 05:50 AM
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I have a rebuilt manual box and am going to a quick ratio PS. It's not that I mind the upper body conditioning every Spring but slow/low speed manuevers are a pain. I have 245/50-16's and really the effort isn't too bad. But 100 turns lock-to-lock is not enjoyable!

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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old Jul 28th, 03, 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by RickD:
But 100 turns lock-to-lock is not enjoyable!
LOL, I'm trying to forget that and you make me remember it. I went to FR and it's great, just need to watch out the front fenders, while backing out of the garage, in tight quarters I still tend to move the steering wheel too much. A bad habit is difficult to erase.

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