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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 02, 11:53 AM Thread Starter
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Why doesn't anyone make a subframe that uses all Corvette components. Are the springs not strong enough or something? A C4 vette is about 3200 lbs, isn't the first gen about the same? Or is there some reson that the stock corvette setup wont fit. I realize that the coil overs asjustability is an advantage but I think it would be nice to just be able to buy a complete front suspension and swap all the components onto a new frame, as well as having a suspension setup that is meant to be together and has alot of aftermarket suport. Anyone know why this could not be done?

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 02, 01:53 PM
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I think there is a custom, aftermarket frame (tube steel) available for '67-'69s that uses all corvette front end parts. I can't recall the manufacturer's name (pretty sure the original designer passed on) but I think they are still making them.

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Art Morrison (or Chris Alston, can't remember which) just introduced a bolt-in tubular subframe with Corvette suspension with coil-overs - I think the ad was either in Super Chevy or PHR.

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I think he's looking for a subframe that uses all the Corvette suspension; no coil-overs, custom parts, etc. I have the Wayne Due (just finishing up) in my 69, but it only uses the Vette brakes, a-arms, and spindles.

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post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 02, 09:39 PM
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the vette uses a fiberglass leaf spring mounted sideways in both the front and rear(like the 90-94 Luminas were- go look under the rear of one and you will see what i mean). this might make packaging difficult, but i do remember some company about 10 years ago that made a kit that used a sideways mounted leaf spring like that, and went into stock first and second gen subframes. i think it is just because coilovers are cheaper and easier to work with.

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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 24th, 02, 03:45 AM
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VetteBrakes makes a transverse leaf spring setup for second gens, but not for first gens.
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Where's Teetoe Jones? Maybe he will pop in on this? pdq67



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post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 24th, 02, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah, I know about the Wayne Due frame. I was just trying to figure out if the spring rate of the Corvette's leaf spring would support a 69 Camaro. I just bought a complete front suspension off of a 95 Corvette and was thinking about building a frame using all stock Corvette parts. If there is some reason that this wouldn't work, I'll probably just save up and get the wayne due frame, but I would prefer all stock components.
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post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 24th, 02, 07:20 AM
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The main reason?
Width and p/s rack placement. To put everything at the stock location, you are looking at an engine that is set back into your firewall at least 6" if not more. Plus the width of the suspension will interfere with your inner fenders, ect. A transverse spring is not that great of a design, especialy when you start getting crosstalk between pass and drivers side suspension travel. Wayne just took all these factors into concideration, and made the best bolt in subframe that money can buy.
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post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 25th, 02, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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Wow I thought it was only like 2 or 3 inches further back. Isn't the wayne due frame stock corvette width or do you have to modify inner fenderwells for it too? Thanks for all the info guys.
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No, the WD frame is not the stock width, and yes, you need to modify your inner fenders because the upper A arm is further back than a stock camaro one.
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Tyler,

Do you remember for sure how much wider the Wayne Due setup is versus a stock disc brake front end? Wayne isn't sure but thinks it's a couple of inches. I'm having wheel clearance problems with the fenders that I didn't have with the stock front end but I'm also trying to get the car higher. I may have to buy new front wheels.

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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 27th, 02, 08:55 AM
 
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Jody:
I just bought a 1986 Corvette front suspension in preparation for a Wayne Due sub-frame order. Are you happy with yours? Worth the money? Any other surprises than tire clearance? Is it as good as everyone says?

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