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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 12th, 01, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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well my drum brakes are really crappy (i dont know how else to put it) and are soft. i really want to switch to disk in the front, and maybe get drop spindles (i like the dropped front, raised rear dragster look, to a point, if its too wild its not cool.
anywho, so far the only kits i've seen are in jegs for $1182 for the front (only) brakes, cylinders lines, master, powerbooster and 2" drop spindles.
i think its really pricey, and includes a whole bunch of stuff i do not need. anyone know of a kit for replacing the front with disks, that bolts on to, and does anyone know any places that sell "bolt-in" drop spindles?
to fix the rear i think i'll just have new pads installed, and run new lines.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 12th, 01, 07:25 PM
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Try Master Power or some of the other vendors.
I don't like the drop spindles, they put the steering arm so low it hits the tire sidewall if you have wide tires.
Lowering the stock suspension actually puts the upper A frame in a better position on the camber "Curve".

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i dont have really wide tires, i think only 6.5" tread width radials in the front. i'll check out master power and your site. thanks dave.
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I'm with Dave. I put a kit like the one you mentioned with drop spindles and have regretted it ever since. Go with lowering springs, definitely. It accomplishes the exact same thing and if you ever want to widen your fronts, you have no interference. I had to order specially made 15x6 Rallys with 3 inches of backspacing to fit the drop spindles. I ordered the whole kit from from one of those suspension companies and I ended up replacing the two calipers and master cylinder at AutoZone because the ones in the kit were defective. But that's another long and frustrating story...

You can definitely save yourself some cash (or at least more than I did!) by buying as much as you can at your local parts store and getting stuff like spindles, drop springs, poly bushings, sway bar, etc. thru the catalogs.

Or if you are real resourceful (and patient), you can find some stuff at a junkyard...but I didn't have much luck with that.

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i just replaced the front springs with stock height ones a couple weeks ago, so i'm just gonna go with new brakes that bolt onto my old spindles if i do it.
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 13th, 01, 09:51 AM
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Drum brake spindels are different from disc spindles. If youre going to add discs you need to get disc spindles or machine the top mounting boss on your spindels down. Or go with a setup like Baer Brakes offers that will fit your drum spindels.
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i decided today that i'd put off new brakes for a while and just buy pads for my drums. i want to start different projects like rear/trans/engine.
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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 13th, 01, 04:32 PM
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I've found that drum brakes work fine when properly adjusted and maintained. With a manual trans, I like manual brakes...with auto trans I like power brakes. having p. brakes on a manual feels strange. The clutch is hard and the brakes are soft

(I know tis has absolutly nothing to do with your post, but I felt like babbling)
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Also go to carquest and get some good pads. I just put on ceramics on my commuter.
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whats the phone # or internet addy for carquest? thanks
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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 15th, 01, 04:10 PM
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If it were me, I'd put the money first into the brakes. I had 4 wheel drums and switched to front power discs. Best $900 ever spent. There's a reason even the lowest of the low end cars built today have front disks. Horsepower is nice, but putting the go in with out the whoa is just plain crazy in my book. Be safe.
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i'll just fix the drums for now, i realise it would be a good idea to get disks, but i dont want to spend alot on brakes until i do what i want with the motor trans and rear, then i'll invest in nice brakes.
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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 16th, 01, 07:32 PM
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I've got manual drums on my 67. I've found that if you rebuild them with new parts, that they work perfectly adequately for street driving. I replaced my pads with Bendix pads and new master cylinder and wheel cylinders all around. I drive my 67 daily, and they work perfectly fine. I'd love to put a disc conversion on it, but it's hard to justify the cost when the stock drums work perfectly fine.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 17th, 01, 03:51 AM
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if you are going to build a big horse motor, you're gonna need a car to put it in. Get the disks first, it might save you from an accident.
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