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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 17, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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CPP Big Brakes / 68 Camaro

Has anyone installed CSS Big Brakes on their 68? The previous owner had them installed on my car, and after crawling under the car and doing some inspection, things are a mess.

I know things are wrong with the emergency cables on the drivers side (its wrapped around the axle) and the driver side is wrong too (too short to even connect). I'm afraid maybe the brakes have been installed wrong too - but don't have instructions and the CSS customer service is clueless. They did email me a very informative one page direction sheet (sarcasm). Hopefully someone here has been through this and has some experience with these brakes.

Help is very appreciated.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 17, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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CPP Brakes....sorry, I dunno where CSS came from?

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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 17, 10:09 PM
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Re: CSS Big Brakes / 68 Camaro

Here's a tech page from CPP, scroll to the brake section and see if you can find something that matches up or looks like your set-up.
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Well Dennis I bought the CPP big brake kit for my 68 and was shocked by how poorly written and illustrated the instructions were. I admit this was my first foray into doing a rear brake drum to disk conversion so I took it real slowly.

The centering of the caliper pads over the rear rotors should be done the first time as a rough gage and final after the system is bled they give you plenty spacers to do this. I didn't do a final centering and ended up with a caliper bracket rubbing on the rotor which only rubbed when it heated up driving it. Spent allot of time on this and I still have a bit of a noise when I turn left that I have to resolve.

The emergency brake cables are a joke and I ended up measuring and ordering new one to fit as the ones that came with the kit were lets just say undesirable.

I did call them for some assistance and they were helpful but your kinda on your own and I don't know why the emergency brake cables that came with the kit didn't work.

Would I do it again with CPP BIG BRAKE KIT....nope
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Re: CPP Big Brakes / 68 Camaro

I just put CPP rears on a 67 last Sunday. The instructions were wrong for our application and the pictures included in the instructions did not depict the parts that were included.

The brake cables were too long however we were able to get them to work ok.

The master cylinder and proportioning valve combo leaked in 5 places. Took serveral hours to get sorted out.

I would look at Right Stuff or Kore3.

Kore3 would be my 1st choice.
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Oh yeah forgot to mention that the proportioning valve was screwed and I ended up changing that also....plus I had to drill out the master cyclinder mounting holes as they were wrong also.
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Oh yeah forgot to mention that the proportioning valve was screwed and I ended up changing that also....plus I had to drill out the master cyclinder mounting holes as they were wrong also.
Thanks for all the help. I think at this point, I have everything correct and working as it should EXCEPT the emergency brake cables. The one on the drivers side was wrapped around the axle once, which I cant imagine being right.

The one on the passenger side is about 4 inches short and I cant figure out any way to make it work. Waiting for some pictures, but I think some custom made cables are in order. These have portions of the casings rubbed / torn away, which isnt good either.

Thank you guys very much for the help.

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Based on my buddy's experience on his Pontiac, Unless I was on a reeeal tight budget,I'd look at something else.

Maybe the instructions don't translate well from China Performance Parts.
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Based on my buddy's experience on his Pontiac, Unless I was on a reeeal tight budget,I'd look at something else.

Maybe the instructions don't translate well from China Performance Parts.
If they weren't already with the car when it was purchased, I definitely would have looked elsewhere....especially knowing what I know now.
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Maybe the instructions don't translate well from China Performance Parts.
That's something else I forgot to mention...they may make some of their stuff in the USA but those out of round rotors are defenantly from China

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Re: CPP Big Brakes / 68 Camaro

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My 71 came with what I figure were CPP rear brakes.
E brake cables were not includes when I bought the car. I used brake cables off a 90's mustang. I had to modify them to fit and have worked well for 5 years.
My car uses calipers off a early 90's mustang and rotors off a 90's lt1 camaro.
We did a lot of track days on a road course and the rear brakes were adequate.
Be sure the caliper is well centered in the rotor. If the pads wear too much the pad will come out, the rotor on my car is not thick enough for the rotor.

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Re: CPP Big Brakes / 68 Camaro

We tried CPP on my 67. They were defective so we replaced with Baer (they weren't quite as expensive 12 years ago as they are now)....

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We tried CPP on my 67. They were defective so we replaced with Baer (they weren't quite as expensive 12 years ago as they are now)....

I keep learning the hard way.....you get what you pay for....

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