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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Aug 6th, 17, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy missing springs

Hi,
Has anyone bought the spring kit or hardware kit for a 67 vert with rear drum brakes and found it was missing springs.I bought a kit from Right Stuff and found the springs that hold the shoe to the back plate missing for one side and the long spring for the adjuster lever for both sides missing as well. No big deal,I figured they just missed it and went to my local automotive place (APC) in town and got another hardware kit. When I got back in my shop and opened the kit, guess what, the springs for the shoes were there but the long springs weren't there either. Now that I think about it, the little springs that go on the one end of the long flat bar that has the fork shape at each end, wasn't in either kit as well. You would think a kit to replace the springs when doing a brake job would have ALL the springs in the kitNo wonder is takes so long to restore a car, you're always missing something.
Which brings me to the next question, which is, does any parts place sell the springs I am missing separately or do I keep buying kits hoping they are complete.
Thanks for letting me vent and hopefully somebody knows where I can get the missing springs.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Aug 8th, 17, 03:27 AM
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Call Right Stuff their customer service is outstanding.
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x2 - Another reason why I open everything when it is delivered and check it against the packing list - make sure it is the right item - and against the as advertised contents. If its not call the vendor rights away.


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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old Aug 8th, 17, 08:14 AM
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Re: missing springs

You can also buy a small parts drum brake rebuild kit (springs, pins, and clips) in a kit at NAPA.

Your problem sounds like either parts fell out of the package in transit or never made it into the box due to a bad bounce, or the sun being in the eyes of the packing robot/illegal alien. Doubt it they were trying to short change you.

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Re: missing springs

No, I didn't think they short changed me. I just thought it was odd the kits would be different and both incomplete.
Went back to local supplier and he did some digging and thinks there is a pro kit which has more springs and includes levers for parking brake components.
Will find out tomorrow.

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Re: missing springs

Steve, Dorman HW7104 has all the springs except the
strut spring. You can get it at most parts stores or order
it from Rock Auto for less than $4.00. The kit covers
both sides. My kit came complete. No missing parts.

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Re: missing springs

Hi Al,
Which one is the Strut spring?

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Which one is the Strut spring?

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The oblong spring that fits on the flat spreader bar (strut).

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Re: missing springs

That's what I thought. Which brings up another question, does the strut end with the spring go to the front shoe or rear shoe? I'm thinking it goes to the front shoe because of the shape of the strut.

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That's what I thought. Which brings up another question, does the strut end with the spring go to the front shoe or rear shoe? I'm thinking it goes to the front shoe because of the shape of the strut.

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Steve, The front (short) shoe is correct.

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Re: missing springs

Finally found the missing spring!
It's not in the Dorman 7104 but in the Dorman 2533.
It's the blue spring that sits at an angle between the 3 Oclock and 5 Oclock position or 9 and 7 position depending on which side your looking at.
Why its not included with the hardware kit is beyond me. Sure held up my project big time, not to mention my hoist.
Thanks guys for all your help and I hope anybody doing a rear brake job reads this.

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Steve, I think you got the numbers backwards. HW7104
has the springs. HW2533 has the self adjuster spring for
one side. Either that or the Dorman web site is wrong.
The HW7104 kit I got had the blue springs included.
Brake Hardware Kit - Drum | Drum Brake Hardware Kit | HW7104 | Dorman Products


Brake Self Adjuster Repair Kit | Drum Brake Self Adjuster Repair Kit | HW2533 | Dorman Products

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I didn't get anything wrong.
I took your advice and ordered the HW7104 and it did not contain the spring in question. Same springs as a Delco kit and Right Stuff.
It was later that I went on Dorman's web site and was scrolling thru their list of packages that I found the spring I was talking about, which is the one in the photo for HW2533. The blue spring for the adjuster is the one spring that three kits I bought did not have including the HW7104. There is another blue spring that is included in your kit and the others but that's for up at the top of brake assembly and is shaped different.
I even took the old spring to three different auto parts companies and they all confirmed that spring is not in the hardware kit.

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Steve, Apparently I'm not understanding your description of the missing spring. Are you talking about the spring that goes under the self adjuster LEVER ? If yes than you are correct that spring is only available in the adjuster kit.

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Re: missing springs

Al, go to the dorman site and in kit 2533 contents picture, the third item from the left. That/s the blue spring I'm talking about.
Now go to kit 7104 contents picture. You will not find the same spring in that kit. Also google 67 Camaro rear drum assembly, scroll down, third one should say "images of 67 Camaro rear brake assembly". Click to inlarge and you should be at heartbeat city site. the spring in question is the blue spring at the 9 oclock to 7 oclock or the 3 oclock to 5 oclock position depending on left side or right side picture.
Also note that there are seven springs per drum assembly not counting the strut spring. kit 7104 only shows 10 springs for both sides. How does that work!!

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