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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Aug 24th, 17, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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tubular arms with hotchkis springs

I have a 67 camaro with an ls1 swap that i've been driving for about 8 years now, and everyone from day one of the swap asks, when am i going to drop the front so it sits better...
Well, i have some money to spend now and I just bought 2" drop hotchkis springs from some guy on craigslist for $120. I'm looking at buying some tubular upper and lower control arms Helix brand off of ebay for $234.
I want to know if these helix will drop more, i'm okay to drop 3" total with the springs. Reason im thinking of changing my control arms also is they squeak like crazy and they are rubber too. I rebuild the front suspension back in 2005 and only driven the car about 12k miles and im tired of the squeak since the rebuild. i was young back then and not sure if i tightened the control arms without it settling first so not sure if i bind the bushings that i installed. anyways i would like to know what route should i go tubular or say rebuild them again? and if i do go with tubulars will it be worth it and how much of a drop will i see with the 2" hotchkis?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Aug 24th, 17, 02:01 PM
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Re: tubular arms with hotchkis springs

Those Arms cost what a Good Set of Balljoints cost!

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Re: tubular arms with hotchkis springs

Put some Delrin bushings in your stock arms. You will likely be sorry if you drop more than 2". No need to drop several hundred to a thousand dollars on arms for your application...

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Put some Delrin bushings in your stock arms. You will likely be sorry if you drop more than 2". No need to drop several hundred to a thousand dollars on arms for your application...



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Sounds good I will just rebuild my LCA & UCA again probably going with rubber
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Re: tubular arms with hotchkis springs

Staying with the stock arms and hotchkiss 2" springs is a good way to go. You can change the bushings. May want to think about delrin
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Staying with the stock arms and hotchkiss 2" springs is a good way to go. You can change the bushings. May want to think about delrin


The derlin cost $300 too much for bushings what do you guys think of the moog


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The derlin cost $300 too much for bushings what do you guys think of the moog


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Another thing is I am just driving the car not doing any auto cross I might do a donut once in a blue moon or get sideways when trying to blow steam but other than that what is the purpose of the Derlin ?


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Another thing is I am just driving the car not doing any auto cross I might do a donut once in a blue moon or get sideways when trying to blow steam but other than that what is the purpose of the Derlin ?


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Delrin won't squeak... Moog should be fine though.

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Thanks Don.
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Re: tubular arms with hotchkis springs

If you're buying a full set of (new) Helix uppers and lowers (four pieces) for $234 thats a steal. I'd double check and make sure.

I haven't got my invoice handy but I think I paid more than double that... probably closer to $600+. BTW, I installed them with Hotchkis 2" springs, too low so I added Global West .750" coil seats. Also used ProForged BJs all around.

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Re: tubular arms with hotchkis springs

You want Delrin Greasable bushings if at all possible. They reduce friction, don't squeak, or wear like Polyurethane. There is a ride quality improvement when going to a Delrin bushing due to the lower friction. You can run stiffer springs and not have as rough a ride, so body control is better.

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