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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 17, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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Suspension and brake issues

I bought a wrecked 67 from copart.
The rt front has too much positive camber. I was told it jumped a ditch.

Bearings looked ok. Inner Race was slightly askew.
Bottom balljoint nut was loose, allowed a lot of play..
Ball joints seem tight, all updated moog components
Put a tape measure on the wheel/flat ground and doesnt seem to be bent.

While inspecting that issue i found that the upper spindle bolt was grinding into the brake disc..
Same thing on the left side

Bent spindles?
Time to upgrade to tubular a-arms?
Does the bolt pictured look like tbe low profile bolt it should be?

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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 17, 11:39 AM
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Bent spindle would be my guess too. I don't see anything obvious with the A-Arms, but you would have to do a close inspection to see if the metal crinkled.

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post #3 of 19 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 17, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Thanks, i spent more than i wanted.
It didnt leave much in the repair budget..
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Doubtful both spindles are bent imho. More likely an issue with the brake conversion kit etc.

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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Seems to me that if it jumped a ditch hit hard and bent the spindles, they would be bent upward giving you negative camber. Being bent upward would allow those top bolts to contact the discs. That is obviously an aftermarket disc kit. Did the bolts rub before jumping the ditch?
Doesn't look like all that much damage yet so maybe not.

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Another thing. Those spindles look much older than the discs and mounts. Are they original drum brake spindles? I think there is a slight difference in machining on the disc spindles than drum. And I think that is in the area of the upper bolt possibly causing the rub. My SSBC kit came with replacement spindles. Been a long time so I may not remember exactly?
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Drum spindle bosses need to be machined if converting to disc. Not enough and contact issues are the result. Easier to just buy new disc spindles. Having worked in collision and restoration, you may want to have a qualified frame tech with knowledge of old cars inspect the car. A novice should not buy salvage vehicles without a tech present.

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post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 17, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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Im the former project manager for a Muscle car restoration shop. This is my 4th personal 67 Camaro. I've built a few cars in the past 23yrs.


Thinking the subframe was bent at least.. I took it to the frame shop. Made an appointment, said it would be fixed that day.. 3 days later I ask if its done and they haven't even looked at it. They said it "looks bent".. ok how much will the "inspection" cost. $20 ransom later I decided to bring the car home and do it myself.

Its just a guessing game because I have zero info about the car or previous owner. I daily question their ability to wipe their own *** let alone if this car was assembled properly.

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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 17, 07:55 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

I found a replacement bare subframe.
I'll order spindles and tubular a-arms.

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post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 17, 08:53 AM Thread Starter
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Removed dust shield and caliper bracket.

Spindle casting no. SPO1
Caliper casting no. SS2BJ
Distance from face to top boss ~.6560in
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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 17, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Found the stampings that told me its a RightStuff kit.
Called their tech support and spoke with Kyle, very helpful.

He said the pictures below show that Both spindles are bent. (@upper balljoint)



Also that the caliper bracket was bent between the spindle attachment points.


Still picking up the subframe.. but the parts bill just got cheaper.
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

My spindles from Right Stuff have the same casting #.
My calipers are Delco and have different cast #. All
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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 17, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Right stuff offers a kit of the things needed. Summit says its shipped.
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post #14 of 19 (permalink) Old Sep 11th, 17, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Installed the RightStuff spindle kit.
New wheel bearings, brake rotors..
Swapped L/R wheels just to make sure they were not bent too.
Lowered the jack and...

It looks exactly the same.

The upper boss bolt with the kit was significantly different than the one removed. (Thinner head)
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Re: Suspension and brake issues

Mathew, I would look at your subframe also. Here is a good chart for reference. My 68 had been hit on the front pass side. When I used stock style components it drove "OK". As soon as I started putting aftermarket (pro touring type) suspension components I had crazy bumpsteer issues. One day i noticed that my pass front tire sat back about 1/4" further back in the wheel well than the drivers side. Very subtle but noticeable. I used this chart and figured out my subframe was twisted. I changed subframes and all of my issues were gone.
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