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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Nov 5th, 17, 07:47 PM Thread Starter
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Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

Hi All,
I am sure that Im not the only one that has had this issue. I have a 1968 SS Camaro that come stock with drum brakes. I made a disc brake conversion purchase with Performance online using part number`s etc;

67-69 CHEVY CAMARO- PONTIAC FIREBIRD, FRONT DROP SPINDLE POWER DISC BRAKE CONVERSION (CBKD6769) 10.5 disc rotors, single calliper. 2 spindle drop.
Using stock 14 rally rims. Now, fitted with 15 rally rims.

So after finally fitting the kit up (steering arms cast in) and having my head done in.. Never again.
My car is now to low. Yep the Aussie fun police got involved. I am going back to stock height spindles and using Global West 1 drop springs. But I am having issues trying to work out what other parts I need for make the change. I have been told that the brake callipers are sungle piston, S10, 79-81 Cutlass, Mote Carlo, GM metric.
If anyone can throw me some part numbers (Summit or Hartbeatcity, Performance online, etc.) on what spindles, steering arms, calliper mounts and other hardware, it will make one Aussie Chev pilot very very happy.

Thank you
Sean

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Re: Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

Could you get away with just taller/stiffer springs ?

ie: BB springs in a SB car ? I'm not sure but in my head it works at 5:30am


Also, how much too low ? They make spacers that go under the spring to raise a car with old/worn/tired springs that may do the trick also ?

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Re: Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

Global West makes quality aluminum spacers that nest in the lower control arm pocket like the bottom of a spring, and your spring seats perfectly in the top portion which is made to match the spring. They make a .750" one which will give you 1.500" actual lift, and a 1" version which will give you 2.00" lift. I'm using the 3/4" version in combination with my Helix upper/lower control arms and Hotchkis 2" BBC springs (yes I have a BBC) to get it (back) where it needs to be. I've probably put on 1500+ miles this summer and have no complaints.

I'm in the process of switching to 17" rims and because of the tire profiles, my fronts/rears will be slightly smaller in OD than my 15" setup. Maybe 1/2" lower, my only concern is seeing how much clearance my header collectors have. Going to see how it all shakes out, but if I have to... I did buy both sizes from Global West and I can swap those in over the winter and get her re-aligned next spring.

I'd stay away from rubber spacers as they do compress over time. I'll also note that there's absolutely no squeaking or metal noise using the Global West spacers, no problems with alignment either.-Mike

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Re: Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

How Much is too low?

When you have a Drop Spindle and a Drop Spring, you can end up on the ground!
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Re: Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

I have the same kit and guess what... I'm not able to fully turn left or right and was wondering if you are able to use a different spindle because POL said stock height spindle wont work for the calipers so i want to know what you done, they wanted me to buy a new a kit i passed on that super pissed.





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Hi All,
I am sure that Im not the only one that has had this issue. I have a 1968 SS Camaro that come stock with drum brakes. I made a disc brake conversion purchase with Performance online using part number`s etc;

67-69 CHEVY CAMARO- PONTIAC FIREBIRD, FRONT DROP SPINDLE POWER DISC BRAKE CONVERSION (CBKD6769) 10.5 disc rotors, single calliper. 2 spindle drop.
Using stock 14 rally rims. Now, fitted with 15 rally rims.

So after finally fitting the kit up (steering arms cast in) and having my head done in.. Never again.
My car is now to low. Yep the Aussie fun police got involved. I am going back to stock height spindles and using Global West 1 drop springs. But I am having issues trying to work out what other parts I need for make the change. I have been told that the brake callipers are sungle piston, S10, 79-81 Cutlass, Mote Carlo, GM metric.
If anyone can throw me some part numbers (Summit or Hartbeatcity, Performance online, etc.) on what spindles, steering arms, calliper mounts and other hardware, it will make one Aussie Chev pilot very very happy.

Thank you
Sean
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I have the same kit and guess what... I'm not able to fully turn left or right and was wondering if you are able to use a different spindle because POL said stock height spindle wont work for the calipers so i want to know what you done, they wanted me to buy a new a kit i passed on that super pissed.
What is keeping the wheel from turning? Did you get a front end alignment? If yes, to what specs?

Don

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Re: Drums - 2" Drop spindle - back to stock height disc`s

Yes got an alignment, but that did not fix my problem. I attached the alignment specs.
What is causing the wheel from not turning all the way is the drop spindle arm that connects to the tie rod, i even shaved the ball stopper on the lower control arm so I can turn more; attaching pictures so you guys could see what i have.
I talked to POL and they said I will need a new brake kit and wont be able to use any of the parts i have :spindle, rotors and caliper. I want to know if i maybe someone could tell me otherwise so I can still use the rotors and calipers by using standard drum spindle with a bracket like how some people are using to put big brakes like the 5th gen brembos onto their 1st gen with original spindles.

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What is keeping the wheel from turning? Did you get a front end alignment? If yes, to what specs?

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If those are metric calipers you really dont want them anyway. Toss it all and start over. Consider it a learning experience and do your research before you buy....

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I bought the 1969 Camaro for 6k and they tempted me to buy the parts they bought worth 4K with recipients :front end rebuilt kit ,disc brake kit,rear suspension shock relocation ect for an additional 2k
I thought it was a great deal since the car was running plus didn't have to deal with buying the brake system only having to worry about the read disc brakes now im thinking of putting ls1 front brake since I have 2 front calipers laying around if I can't use what I have


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If those are metric calipers you really dont want them anyway. Toss it all and start over. Consider it a learning experience and do your research before you buy....



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I believe I have the wack metric brakes going back to drum now....
i'm going to find my drum brakes and put them back in the front want to run my 14's and work my way to putting the 4th gen ls1 front brakes in once i get the brackets does anyone know where i could get those because someone on ebay is selling them for $125 which i think is pretty expensive for brackets. According to pozzi Rich Hoag is selling them but how do i contact him he's offering them for $60

thanks
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I believe I have the wack metric brakes going back to drum now....
i'm going to find my drum brakes and put them back in the front want to run my 14's and work my way to putting the 4th gen ls1 front brakes in once i get the brackets does anyone know where i could get those because someone on ebay is selling them for $125 which i think is pretty expensive for brackets. According to pozzi Rich Hoag is selling them but how do i contact him he's offering them for $60

thanks
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