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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 31st, 18, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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upper control arm rivet problem

Has anyone installed the 1/4" rivets in the control arms. I have tried to install them with a 4X rivet gun however they are not moving I am at 80 pounds but will not move. Are there other ways to install the rivets. My car is a 68 ss rs 396 under construction. If some one has an idea please let me know.
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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 31st, 18, 03:54 PM
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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

always used grade 8 bolts for replacement of the ball joint
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Almost impossible to duplicate the factory rivets. Heat and a press are the only way I can think to do it, but I personally would use bolts as well.

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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

The better brand of upper ball joints come with bolts and nuts. As suggested, use grade 8 hardware and Nyloc nuts.

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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

If youíre looking for orginality I would highly suggest you send your control arms and ball joints to Bairís Corvette.

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They riveted my balls joints in and they came out great.

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In-Line Tube offers a bolt that looks like a Rivet. At least they used to. Call them.

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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

Thanks every one for the help, I need to stay original as this has been a full on restoration. My motor has been rebuilt to the same standards as original. The car is a number matching car. Thanks again to everyone it is great that the site has people that is willing to help out.
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Aha! Selection in staying with OE design and I can respect this decision.
Looks like maybe send them to Blair's, or maybe find a local shop?
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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

I did a bunch of hot riveting on my 45 Willys frame, its simple, (I can say that now)
heat the rivet up with a torch then drop it in and go to town with the rivet gun and a bucking tool
your 4X should work fine but you need to heat the rivet red hot

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Ball Joints are an expendable part and GM replacement prodedure is to use bolts when replacing. IMO this doesnít detract from originality and has nothing to do with numbers matching.

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Ball Joints are an expendable part and GM replacement prodedure is to use bolts when replacing. IMO this doesnít detract from originality and has nothing to do with numbers matching.

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For certain judging criteria, only assembly line parts will pass. Otherwise, points are deducted.

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For certain judging criteria, only assembly line parts will pass. Otherwise, points are deducted.
Interesting. Would the judges look so close to deduct if the look like rivers were used?

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Re: upper control arm rivet problem

Thanks for the information, I did find the correct rivets but doing the riveting is not as easy the rivets are 1/4" and the rivets need to be the correct length. It is a learning curve. I will find how to do the riveting and will keep in touch with everyone when finished. Thanks for all the replies they are very help full.
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Interesting. Would the judges look so close to deduct if the look like rivers were used?
If nuts are evident, yes. Battery trays without an assembly line tab will fail. NOS trays do not have the tab. All this is at CRG.

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