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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 19, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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cant remove hooks from installed coil spring

I am installing ridetech dual-rate springs...install was no problem. I am using the spring compressor below. I absolutely cannot get the hooks out of the installed spring. I have tried every which way to rotate and turn but its not coming out. I cant slip it through nor straighten it out. Also, the hooks cannot be removed (which I was able to do when I rented the spring compressor with 2 sets of hooks when I removed the old springs) Any ideas?

The second picture is how it is now, because I started to take it back off and even that is presenting challenges...there is less spring length to compress because of the tight coils on the bottom and its a shorter than stock spring.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

Both sides of the forked plate should be on the same coil. Not 1 coil apart as you have it.
Also you have the plate and hooks too close to each other. You need space between the
plate and fork base. The way I see it you're going to have to remove the spring with the
compressor attached and reset the compressor properly. Also be sure the threaded rod
isn't hitting the top of the spring tower. If the spring is short enough you may not need
the compressor.

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Both sides of the forked plate should be on the same coil. Not 1 coil apart as you have it.
Also you have the plate and hooks too close to each other. You need space between the
plate and fork base. The way I see it you're going to have to remove the spring with the
compressor attached and reset the compressor properly. Also be sure the threaded rod
isn't hitting the top of the spring tower. If the spring is short enough you may not need
the compressor.
Al,
Thanks...I agree that the plate needs to be on the same coil...but I couldn't get the plate in far enough to center it because the coil below is too tight so once the plate slid up I could then center the plate. I cant get the hooks any higher because they bind. I was trying to get just a little compression to take it back off. The spring hasn't released yet and I dont want to use the fork tool because I will ruin the new balljoint boot. Dont want to beat on the new parts installed. I may have to grind off the hooks and ruin the spring compressor. I can get the hooks to freely spin around and drop down to the lower control...just cant snake it out.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

You don't need to use a ball joint separator forked tool. Just back the nut off so
you've still got about a full nut worth off threads engaged. Position a floor jack
under the spring pocket leaving a slight amount of clearance. Then hit the ball
joint knuckle with a BFH. It'll pop loose.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

If you can get the forked compressor plate and the threaded rod out then do as I just
described. After poping the ball joint loose remove the nut and slowly lower the control
arm but not fully releasing the spring. This will expand the spring and should give enough
room to remove the hooks. You may have to pry the coils open some but I'd bet you get
the hooks out. This is all assuming the motor is in the car for weight allowing you control
of the control arm without things flying apart.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

[quote=allanjs;1783135457]You don't need to use a ball joint separator forked tool. Just back the nut off so
you've still got about a full nut worth off threads engaged. Position a floor jack
under the spring pocket leaving a slight amount of clearance. Then hit the ball
joint knuckle with a BFH. It'll pop thread

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If you can get the forked compressor plate and the threaded rod out then do as I just
described. After poping the ball joint loose remove the nut and slowly lower the control
arm but not fully releasing the spring. This will expand the spring and should give enough
room to remove the hooks. You may have to pry the coils open some but I'd bet you get
the hooks out. This is all assuming the motor is in the car for weight allowing you control
of the control arm without things flying apart.
I have the subframe out of the car, so no weight on it.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

Hit the spindle knuckle where the ball joint taper fits. Not the ball joint threads.
With the sub out your going to have to use a different strategy so thing don't fly apart.
I've done it with a chain and jack. I don't have the time right now to explain so work safely.
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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

You donít need a spring compressor for aftermarket coils with sub in the car. With sub out of the car, or no engine, I use a long piece of allthread & use a piece of drilled steel bar stock large enough to cover the shock hole on the lower A arm. I think I used 1/2Ē allthread.
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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

my sub frame was not out of the car, but there was no front end or engine when I installed my springs.
I used a floor jack and sand bags. that is it
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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

A jack and chain is all you need like Al stated. I bought this efficient tool years ago: https://www.amazon.com/OTC-7045B-Fro.../dp/B000GTJ5I8. Worth it if you do this work often.
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Use David Pozziís method. Easiest and safest by far.

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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

The spring compressor you have will not work. You will never be able to remove the hooks after the spring is installed.

All thread or the tool Scott posted will work,
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Re: cant remove hooks from spring compressor

It looks like the style of compressor I've used on my car. If it is, it has bolts holding the hooks in place. Remove the bolts so the hooks can be pulled out separately.

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You donít need a spring compressor for aftermarket coils with sub in the car. With sub out of the car, or no engine, I use a long piece of allthread & use a piece of drilled steel bar stock large enough to cover the shock hole on the lower A arm & through the frame shock hole. I think I used 1/2Ē allthread.
thanks Dave...would never have thought that the shortened spring would be "short enough" that a compressor may not be required...i have the spring back out. I'm moving on to replacing motor mounts today.

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