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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 10th, 19, 05:49 AM Thread Starter
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Lost Power steering ... WTF???

This is a brand new unit part of the Concept 1 serpentine system. I took it for a nice 80 mile run on Friday, started the car Saturday morning and no power steering .. . Opened the reservoir and it's full but no fluid movement. I figure i'll pull the lines, drain the system, crank the wheel left & right a few times with hoses off to push out more fluid, blow the lines out, refill, and try to bleed... Any thoughts? advice? Anyone know what pump this is? If it's available from Summit or Jegs or??

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 10th, 19, 06:03 AM
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Re: Lost Power steering ... WTF???

There is quite a bit of chatter on the pro touring forums about pump failures and the need for an inline power steering filter to prevent them.

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Don - Pardon my ignorance, my knowledge and understanding of power steering is limited to OEM set-ups, so can you take a moment and tell me what the issue is with these pumps and how a filter prevents the failure? Is it a contamination/over aeration issue? Or is the "filter" just a device to reduce flow/increase pressure?

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Re: Lost Power steering ... WTF???

Maybe you got a bad pump. Sometimes that happens.
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Re: Lost Power steering ... WTF???

Frank, Because the unit is new I would talk with the supplier before doing anything
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Re: Lost Power steering ... WTF???

If you put a new LS style pump in and an old power steering box without flushing it completely until the fluid ran clear debris in the fluid may have ruined the PS pump.

The LS pump are vane type and more susceptible to contaminates then the OEM style pumps.

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Don - Pardon my ignorance, my knowledge and understanding of power steering is limited to OEM set-ups, so can you take a moment and tell me what the issue is with these pumps and how a filter prevents the failure? Is it a contamination/over aeration issue? Or is the "filter" just a device to reduce flow/increase pressure?

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Contamination. LS style pumps are easily damaged by debris as John noted above. Sounds like a new pump may have been connected to an old box...

This is one of David Pozzi’s topics so hopefully he will weigh in....

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If you put a new LS style pump in and an old power steering box without flushing it completely until the fluid ran clear debris in the fluid may have ruined the PS pump.

The LS pump are vane type and more susceptible to contaminates then the OEM style pumps.
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Contamination. LS style pumps are easily damaged by debris as John noted above. Sounds like a new pump may have been connected to an old box...

This is one of David Pozzi’s topics so hopefully he will weigh in....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Magnefi...0af63f32d788a7

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Yes,,, new pump, old box,,, damnitman.. I really thought I flushed the system pretty good

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What the fluid look like?
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Thanks Don for the education.


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What the fluid look like?
Ugly... I obviously didn't flush as good as I thought.. or heck.. maybe I thought I did and didn't.. IDK... Either way,, it's phucked.
I talked to Ben at Concept 1 and he agreed to let me send it back and he'll go through it for me and get it back to me.. Great customer service.

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So basically he thinks he can rebuild it for you that's awesome.


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Is the pump making noise?

My whole understanding of old box new pump comes from been there done that. Haha
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Is the pump making noise?

My whole understanding of old box new pump comes from been there done that. Haha
Actually, No, it;s not making any noise. It did seem like it got hotter than I would have expected in the short amount of time i ran it.

I've run a quart of fluid through the gearbox.. not sure how much more I can do

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Need to run fluid while turning stop to stop until fluid runs clear.

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