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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 19, 05:08 PM Thread Starter
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HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Got the new pump, installed it, filled with fluid, fired up the car and still no power steering Pulled return line, fired it up and good fast flow.. reconnect, fill with fluid and again, no PS. Each time, I turned the wheel lock to lock several times trying to bleed the system of air.

Could it be the gear box? What and how do they act when something goes bad in them? I'm so freakin not happy right now

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 19, 07:06 PM
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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

When my gearbox was bad my car would jump when you turned it , very dangerous to drive but for your are you sure the belt is tight ? . Just throwing that out because a loose belt can do that . The belt needs to be tight
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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Maybe the flow valve. Idk.

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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Frank, You may have to turn lock to lock 30 or more times. Are you seeing a drop in the fluid level?
That would indicate air in the system.

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When my gearbox was bad my car would jump when you turned it , very dangerous to drive but for your are you sure the belt is tight ? . Just throwing that out because a loose belt can do that . The belt needs to be tight
Belt is tight

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Frank, You may have to turn lock to lock 30 or more times. Are you seeing a drop in the fluid level?
That would indicate air in the system.
Fluid dropped twice and I refilled, when it's full the fluid drops a little when turning to the left but comes back up and overflows when I turn right

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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Get the wheels off the ground and cycle the steering end to end multiple times without the engine running. That is the way to get out the air in my experience. Not good practice to run the pump before doing this imho....

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Get the wheels off the ground and cycle the steering end to end multiple times without the engine running. That is the way to get out the air in my experience. Not good practice to run the pump before doing this imho....

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Thought I was supposed to do it with it running... i'll try it your way and see what happens

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I didn't realize you were running the motor. Don is correct. Wheels off the ground
and cycle from lock to lock numerous times with the reservoir cap off or loose so
the air can escape.

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Thought I was supposed to do it with it running... i'll try it your way and see what happens
Nope. You will hear the air escaping through the lines. Might have to let it sit several hours before doing it if it has been running since the fluid will be well aerated.

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I didn't realize you were running the motor. Don is correct. Wheels off the ground
and cycle from lock to lock numerous times with the reservoir cap off or loose so
the air can escape.
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Nope. You will hear the air escaping through the lines. Might have to let it sit several hours before doing it if it has been running since the fluid will be well aerated.

Don
Thanks guys.. it's been sitting over night so I should be settled by now

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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 30th, 19, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Well... I'm pretty sure i burned up that pump by trying to bleed it while running. I jacked it up, turned lock to lock 50+ times, fired it up, no PS and the pump gets very hot very fast.

Anyone know the application for one of these pumps if I were to go to a parts store, what car would I look it up for? I think I read somewhere that one off a 1990 Celebrity would work, and the 1998-2002 Camaro and '97 Corvette also but they are different pressures and different size pulley shafts, one uses bushings and the other uses roller bearings???
I want to try a stock pump before I go burning up another one of these polished expensive ones

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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

Ok let me ask a stupid question. Do you have the hoses on the box reversed?

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Re: HELP!!! Power steering issues... continued

I have a brand new one, but it appears it is not the same. The one I have is a GM Type II remote reservoir I received with my serpentine system from CVF Racing. I chose to go with an attached reservoir so this one is a spare right now. It's the one on the left....





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post #15 of 34 (permalink) Old Jun 30th, 19, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Ok let me ask a stupid question. Do you have the hoses on the box reversed?

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I have no clue.. i've questioned this myself.. pressure side of pump to the port on the box closest to the engine.

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