Steering Box Port Question - Team Camaro Tech
Brakes, Suspension & Steering Conversion questions, Steering & Handling

 8Likes
  • 2 Post By dhutton
  • 2 Post By 69Z28
  • 1 Post By dhutton
  • 1 Post By Brettallen59
  • 1 Post By 57vette
  • 1 Post By Brettallen59
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
Gold Lifetime Member
Brett
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,121
Garage
Steering Box Port Question

I am attempting to replace my steering box. The old one has the ferrules inside the ports. The rebuilt one I purchased from Rock Auto does not. I feel pretty sure I must have these or it will leak. Can I buy them? Can I remove the ones in the old unit? Or did they cut them out and I need to send it back!?
Thanks,

Brett.... Oh, Happy New Year!!!!

The first pic is the old unit, bottom is the rebuilt, new unit.....




Rockets Up In 2020!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1969 Code X-66 SS 396 - RS Conversion - TKO600 - 3.73 Posi - Paint Code 71-LeMans Blue
Brettallen59 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 03:43 PM
Team Member
Don
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mountain Springs, Texas
Posts: 3,884
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Far from an expert but my guess is top one is flare and the bottom one is o-ring. Not positive though.

Don
69Z28 and yellow69RS like this.

1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS
1969 Camaro vert LS3 4L65E Ridetech level 2 - sold
1959 El Camino project
1969 Mustang Sportsroof project
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1956 Cameo project - C5 drivetrain
1957 Buick Caballero project
dhutton is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
Gold Lifetime Member
Brett
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,121
Garage
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
Far from an expert but my guess is top one is flare and the bottom one is o-ring. Not positive though.

Don
Don,

They did send o-rings, but they look too small. I just can't see them sealing. I guess I can try it. My hose fittings are still flare.

Brett....

Rockets Up In 2020!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1969 Code X-66 SS 396 - RS Conversion - TKO600 - 3.73 Posi - Paint Code 71-LeMans Blue
Brettallen59 is offline  
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 04:01 PM
Team Member
Don
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mountain Springs, Texas
Posts: 3,884
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brettallen59 View Post
Don,

They did send o-rings, but they look too small. I just can't see them sealing. I guess I can try it. My hose fittings are still flare.

Brett....
The hose fittings are different for o-ring style. That is not a direct replacement steering box. You can probably buy adaptors from o-ring to flare.

1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS
1969 Camaro vert LS3 4L65E Ridetech level 2 - sold
1959 El Camino project
1969 Mustang Sportsroof project
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1956 Cameo project - C5 drivetrain
1957 Buick Caballero project
dhutton is offline  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 04:05 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Gary
 
69Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Delaware
Posts: 3,492
Re: Steering Box Port Question

I can't remember the guy that was doing the nascar boxes. but someone said give him a call. I told him WHAT I was installing and what hoses I was using, and he sent me two flared pieces you just tap in the openings to seat flared factory style hoses. It's been since 2000 when I added power steering to my Camaro, and IIRC, I used a box from a 1980 WS6 Trans AM and haven't had any issues. Might be what you need.
dhutton and yellow69RS like this.

06A 1969 Camaro Z28 711 69 B Black Stripes Console w/tach and gauges
69Z28 is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 04:11 PM
Team Member
Don
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mountain Springs, Texas
Posts: 3,884
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Something like this is what I think you need:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CPP-605-Pow...kAAOSwRPhbiHpr

Make sure you have room for the added height.

Don

1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS
1969 Camaro vert LS3 4L65E Ridetech level 2 - sold
1959 El Camino project
1969 Mustang Sportsroof project
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1956 Cameo project - C5 drivetrain
1957 Buick Caballero project
dhutton is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 04:31 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Gary
 
69Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Delaware
Posts: 3,492
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
Something like this is what I think you need:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CPP-605-Pow...kAAOSwRPhbiHpr

Make sure you have room for the added height.

Don

Been seeing the ebay adapters a lot lately. Looks like the factory OEM style hoses will work with those.


I used these, see below.
Attached Images
 

06A 1969 Camaro Z28 711 69 B Black Stripes Console w/tach and gauges
69Z28 is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 04:52 PM
Team Member
Don
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mountain Springs, Texas
Posts: 3,884
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by 69Z28 View Post
Been seeing the ebay adapters a lot lately. Looks like the factory OEM style hoses will work with those.


I used these, see below.
I think maybe those might work too but Iím not sure how they seal the o-ring port. Maybe just pressure on the sealing surfaces?

Don

1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS
1969 Camaro vert LS3 4L65E Ridetech level 2 - sold
1959 El Camino project
1969 Mustang Sportsroof project
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1956 Cameo project - C5 drivetrain
1957 Buick Caballero project
dhutton is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 05:16 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Gary
 
69Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Delaware
Posts: 3,492
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
I think maybe those might work too but Iím not sure how they seal the o-ring port. Maybe just pressure on the sealing surfaces?

Don

I never thought to ask that question. I just trusted what the guy, I'm thinking Lee Manufaturing or Power Steering something like that that does the NASCAR boxes sent me. He just said tap them in, and you're good. Never looked back. I went out to look for leaks just a bit ago, and nice and clean. May be worth calling...to be sure??!!

06A 1969 Camaro Z28 711 69 B Black Stripes Console w/tach and gauges
69Z28 is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
Gold Lifetime Member
Brett
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,121
Garage
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Well yes, I have some of those inverted flare o-ring adapters here. I put the o-rings in they sent, but you are right, I need to do more than what I did. I put the whole thing together, but my steering column is apart right now and it got late. I'll see if it leaks and if it doesn't i'll leave it, but I doubt it's good. I think those brass ferules that are in the old one are just tapped in also. I could try to pop them out and see what it looks like underneath.

Thanks guys!

Brett.....

Rockets Up In 2020!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1969 Code X-66 SS 396 - RS Conversion - TKO600 - 3.73 Posi - Paint Code 71-LeMans Blue
Brettallen59 is offline  
post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 05:37 PM
Team Member
Don
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mountain Springs, Texas
Posts: 3,884
Re: Steering Box Port Question

The ones I posted might also change the threads from metric to imperial which Iím pretty sure you donít want to do.

Don
69Z28 likes this.

1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS
1969 Camaro vert LS3 4L65E Ridetech level 2 - sold
1959 El Camino project
1969 Mustang Sportsroof project
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1956 Cameo project - C5 drivetrain
1957 Buick Caballero project
dhutton is offline  
post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 05:38 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Gary
 
69Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Delaware
Posts: 3,492
Re: Steering Box Port Question

I found my old post if this can help here, or others going this route. 1980 WS6 T/A (metric lines). I think 1980 was the first year for metric fittings. After a little research I contacted Lee Manufacturing Co.-toll free 888-698-6697 and they sent me the seats/inserts- #40620 Pressure Seat $3.85 and #40630 Return Seat $3.85. Easy installation. The early hoses will screw right into the metric power unit perfectly. Found this link just for some info and chatter.

https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/s...hp?tid/106481/

06A 1969 Camaro Z28 711 69 B Black Stripes Console w/tach and gauges
69Z28 is offline  
post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 20, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
Gold Lifetime Member
Brett
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,121
Garage
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Thanks Gary. I'm gonna call.
Man! they got a bunch of fittings and flares and rag joints on their Lee website! Go to Lee Website
BTW, did anyone notice that my old box has a titty sticking out the end of the input shaft? The new one does not have it. ???

Brett...
69Z28 likes this.

Rockets Up In 2020!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1969 Code X-66 SS 396 - RS Conversion - TKO600 - 3.73 Posi - Paint Code 71-LeMans Blue

Last edited by Brettallen59; Jan 1st, 20 at 06:15 PM. Reason: Edit
Brettallen59 is offline  
post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 2nd, 20, 03:11 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Mike
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: New England/Western Mass
Posts: 707
Garage
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Brett...

Maybe this is what you need?



I did the JGC steering box and its metric (1996) you insert these and then you can use your OEM-style 1969 hoses (non metric). I did this 3 years ago, dry as a bone. All these (newer) Saginaw boxes are pretty much the same.
69Z28 likes this.

'69 LeMans Blue Coupe, White Interior, 030" over 454, Super T10 4-Speed, Holley 4150, Pertronix Ignition
CompCams XS274S, 781 Oval Port Heads, PYPES Full 3" SS Exhaust, Hooker Comp Headers, Wilwood Calipers/MC
JGC Steering Box, Helix Uppers/Lowers, ProForged BJs, SpeedHut Gauges, MOMO Steering Wheel, Budnik 17" Wheels
57vette is offline  
post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old Jan 2nd, 20, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
Gold Lifetime Member
Brett
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,121
Garage
Re: Steering Box Port Question

Yes, I ordered some from the Lee website.

Brett....
69Z28 likes this.

Rockets Up In 2020!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1969 Code X-66 SS 396 - RS Conversion - TKO600 - 3.73 Posi - Paint Code 71-LeMans Blue
Brettallen59 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Team Camaro Tech forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address.
NOTE we receive a lot of registrations with bad email addresses. IF you do not receive your confirmation email you will not be able to post. contact support and we will try and help.
Be sure you enter a valid email address and check your spam folder as well.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome