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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 20, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
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manual disk brakes

Hello all,

I have been searching,, calling vendors and i feel worn out.

Who has converted manual drum front brakes to MANUAL disk. What kit did you use, I am looking for a zero offset if possible. I am running 15" steel ralleys...

Some are as much as 3/4"

the car is a 1967 camaro, simple single piston, 11" rotor is more than enough.

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 20, 11:24 AM
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Re: manual disk brakes

I did this conversion using, "The Right Stuff" parts. Check out their website. Also, I can't compare manual to power disc brakes but I have no issues with my manual disc front/drum rear. Car stops fine. Plus, you don't have the brake booster taking up room under the hood. A much cleaner look in my opinion.
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post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 20, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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I did this conversion using, "The Right Stuff" parts. Check out their website. Also, I can't compare manual to power disc brakes but I have no issues with my manual disc front/drum rear. Car stops fine. Plus, you don't have the brake booster taking up room under the hood. A much cleaner look in my opinion.

I do not want power brakes,,, don't want the booster under the hood and will not have much vacuum anyway.

I just ordered
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/clp-6472swbk-s it is supposed to be zero offset.
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Re: manual disk brakes

You will still need proportioning valve, mc etc. Pirate Jacks was a good source for me.

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Re: manual disk brakes

Wilwood. The offset is .19", according to Wilwood.

https://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Br...axle=Front+Kit
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Wilwood. The offset is .19", according to Wilwood.

https://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Br...axle=Front+Kit
I looked at Wilwood, called them today,, that kit requires the top spindle mount be drill and tapped to a 5/8x18.
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I guess it depends on how original you want it to appear.

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I looked at Wilwood, called them today,, that kit requires the top spindle mount be drill and tapped to a 5/8x18.

Which kit? My kit (140-13202) didn't require any drilling.
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Re: manual disk brakes

I used Stainless Steel Brakes. Four wheel manual discs. I think I ordered through Jeg's, whole kit discs, calipers, backing plates, spindles, MC, everything except E Brake cables. Works well. Might go to power at some point if I can't get vacume.

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post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 20, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
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Which kit? My kit (140-13202) didn't require any drilling.
Front Brake Kit — 140-10996 is what he recommended. it has a .190 offset.


I see 140-13202 also has a .190

I am looking at the install PDF now,, the bolt is a 5/8-18. I will measure what the OEM bolt is. Maybe it is already 5/8 and the tech is unaware.
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I'm using a kit made from CPP and in fact I'm ordering there 2" drop spindles right now.

They say with these spindles they will not effect the offset of the wheel.

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I'm using a kit made from CPP and in fact I'm ordering there 2" drop spindles right now.

They say with these spindles they will not effect the offset of the wheel.
Beware. Drop spindles are just about the worst thing you can do to a 1st Gen.

The tie rod will probably hit your rim. Also you’ll get bad bumpsteer.

Way better to lower with the spring selection.
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Beware. Drop spindles are just about the worst thing you can do to a 1st Gen.

The tie rod will probably hit your rim. Also you’ll get bad bumpsteer.

Way better to lower with the spring selection.
Thank you sir. I will keep an eye out for those items.

I also have a few sets of springs to play around with as well.

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Re: manual disk brakes

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I'm using a kit made from CPP and in fact I'm ordering there 2" drop spindles right now.

They say with these spindles they will not effect the offset of the wheel.
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I'm using a kit made from CPP and in fact I'm ordering there 2" drop spindles right now.

They say with these spindles they will not effect the offset of the wheel.
I just mocked up my CPP kit and the surface is offset by 1/2-5/8"+, not including the thickness of the drum. Didn't waste a bunch of time with it because like most of the other parts i ordered last year,,, it was not as advertised.

Also, the rotor is stamped, made in china. the pads and calipers feel cheeeeap. could not identify the bearings.

Most likely sending it back.
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Re: manual disk brakes

Drop spindles do not allow wider wheels than stock. The tire hits the tie rod end. Look at your current arms and imagine the tie rod end 2" lower.
Ride Tech is one company that has a good drop spindle that is also taller to improve neg camber gain. When used with their Tru-Turn steering linkage, it corrects the bump steer that is present stock and is made worse when taller spindles are installed.

The worst drop spindle packages are the cast ones because the brakes are more like a second gen. You can't transfer them back to a std spindle if you aren't happy with the drop.

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