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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 13th, 06, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
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i just finished a frame off on a 69 z28 302. i used the same springs in the front that were on the car. the car looks a little high in the front. i measured on a flat surface the bottom of the subframe to the floor and have a diatance of approximately 7 3/4 inches. i guess i missed something in the reassembly. when i brought the car to the front end shop i left the suspension loose so they could get the right height but i don't think i do. thank you for any answers. thank you for your time.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 13th, 06, 02:21 PM
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Are they new springs? If so, it should lower over time.

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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 13th, 06, 03:57 PM
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Two things here!

First, loosen everything in the front while your car's frontend is up in the air and then put it on the ground and retighten! (All bushings, S/B ends, etc.)., b/c they can hold a car up if tightened in the air!

Second, maybe your springs aren't seated properly up top? This will cause the same thing! BUT most times if you drive it, they will clunk/bang/rattle b/c the top of the springs are hitting side-pocket metal and aren't supposed to!!

Been there and done both.....

And it is a pain to re-seat a spring or two!!

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 13th, 06, 08:37 PM Thread Starter
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i thought the same thing about the spring seated in the control arm. if i have to seat it again i should be able to do it without taking the spindle down. maybe?i think that if i look from underneath i should be able to see if it is in right? thank you for your time
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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 13th, 06, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
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not new. the way it sits up though you would say that for sure.
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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 14th, 06, 05:51 PM
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i thought the same thing about the spring seated in the control arm. if i have to seat it again i should be able to do it without taking the spindle down. maybe?i think that if i look from underneath i should be able to see if it is in right? thank you for your time
The spring doesn't seat in the lower control arm - it seats at the top, in the spring pocket in the frame, 3/8" from the stop. The hole in the recess in the lower control arm is just for drainage.


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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 06, 10:05 AM Thread Starter
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thank you for your reply. as i posted my measurments from the bottom of the subframe to the ground is approximately 7 3/4 inches. do you know what yours measures? thank you .
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Re: front height

For reference, my all-original/untouched '69Z measures 5-1/2" from the bottom of the subframe to the floor, with 215/65-15 tires; the suspension is about 3/4" below original "J" and "K" ride height specs, but it sits dead level.


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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 06, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
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so it looks like i am about 1- 1.5 in too high. i am going to put it up on my buddys lift and see if in fact it is not seated in the control arm propoerly. thank you
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 06, 01:27 PM
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I like both of the above ideas. Check that the springs are seated properly, and loosen the front end with the car off the ground, then re-tighten with the car on the ground.
I recently read that control arm bushings are supposed to be tightened with the springs compressed because the bushings wont move once tightened. This then causes the bushing to hold the car up higher than normal.
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