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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 14th, 06, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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That almost all GM front brakes parts are interchangeable ?

Reason I ask is because I am looking to replace the drum brakes on the front of my 68 with disc. I was advised that instead of buying new ones, I should first look into some of the local junk yards and try and get a good set from there. If the GM discs brakes on todays cars will fit a 68 Camaro, tell me, which car should I look for.

I only want to convert out the brakes in the front.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 14th, 06, 09:53 AM
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Re: Tell me, is it true..

It's true to a point.
There are several different balljoint stud sizes, and many newer cars used spindles with the caliper brackets built in rather than bolt on. These cars also may have had front steer steering arms cast in. This happened after drum brakes were no longer an option.

The rotrs from newer cars will generally fit on our spindles, but might need different bearings. Caliper brackets exist or can be made to bolt a wide variety on calipers onto our spindles.

In the back, all GM cars used the same bolt pattern on the ends of the axles, and everything will interchange up to a certain level of newness that I'm not sure of. I know the rear disks from 3rd gens and 80's sevilles will go on with some work.

Other than the Baers and willwoods and other "race setups" the vast majority of "disk brake kits" sold are a combination of oem parts you can buy at any auto parts store for 1/3 the price if you know what to ask for, along with possibly a custom caliper bracket.





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Re: Tell me, is it true..

I would agree that most of the brake kits are a combo of OEM parts, but I tried to price them at local parts stores and I really wasn't saving a whole lot, maybe between $100-200 for what I have into my brake system. It was worth the extra money to go a head and buy a kit. That way I know I have all the parts I need with out the time involved to go hunt it all down.

Now, for a lot of people it is the hunt for parts that is some of the enjoyment of the hobby and I applaud that and wish I had the time, patience, and knowledge for that. Unfortunately I am not in a position to spend a lot of time looking for parts, therefore I shell out a bit more than those who are good at hunting down the parts. If you have the wherewithawl though you can put together your car for not a whole lot of money.
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I would agree that most of the brake kits are a combo of OEM parts, but I tried to price them at local parts stores and I really wasn't saving a whole lot, maybe between $100-200 for what I have into my brake system. It was worth the extra money to go a head and buy a kit. That way I know I have all the parts I need with out the time involved to go hunt it all down.

Now, for a lot of people it is the hunt for parts that is some of the enjoyment of the hobby and I applaud that and wish I had the time, patience, and knowledge for that. Unfortunately I am not in a position to spend a lot of time looking for parts, therefore I shell out a bit more than those who are good at hunting down the parts. If you have the wherewithawl though you can put together your car for not a whole lot of money.
That sounds like a good idea..thanks

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I wish I'd have known about all this when I did mine.(then I find Team Camaro)

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I am glad you figure a $100 to $200 savings in parts cost over the counter isn't MUCH!!

Do a search for my "pdqCBB" front and rear set-up's if you want to save money AND get the biggest/cheapest disc brakes going.

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I would agree that most of the brake kits are a combo of OEM parts, but I tried to price them at local parts stores and I really wasn't saving a whole lot, maybe between $100-200 for what I have into my brake system. It was worth the extra money to go a head and buy a kit. That way I know I have all the parts I need with out the time involved to go hunt it all down.

Now, for a lot of people it is the hunt for parts that is some of the enjoyment of the hobby and I applaud that and wish I had the time, patience, and knowledge for that. Unfortunately I am not in a position to spend a lot of time looking for parts, therefore I shell out a bit more than those who are good at hunting down the parts. If you have the wherewithawl though you can put together your car for not a whole lot of money.
I came to the same conslusion. Without calipers cores I was going to save about $150 over the CBB, plus I needed to fab/buy brackets. I also got new hubs, axle bearing/seals and studs. So when it is all said and done it was probably less than $75 difference with no hassle.

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I re-read what you said AND I appologize b/c I am out of line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My bad....

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 06, 09:00 AM
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No problem. I have known folks who will scrounge, piece together, and/or fabricate what they need for a project. Unfortunately I do not have the skills, knowledge, or time to do that. I truly wish I did, because I think it is impressive that folks can do that. To me that is true hot rodding and a demonstration of the American spirit.

Then you have folks like me, who can do a lot of the remove and replace work, but don't trust their engineering or knowlege skills to make something like a brake mod work. This is another part of the hobby and one that makes vendors stay in business. Yes $100 or $200 is a chunk of change to me, but so is a bunch of hours scouring the pick a part yard or calling around. Call me lazy. In addition, I am in the military, so just when I get to know the good places to get parts or a machine shop, etc, I am being transferred.

I used to have a '58 Impala w/ a 348 in the '80s and it was very hard to get parts for that car. About 2-3 years after I sold that car, the aftermarket "discovered it" and started making all kinds of reproduction parts for it. So, I welcome owning a Camaro and the ability to buy most of the car off the shelf. Some folks will lament that is not true hot rodding, but does let a bunch a people into the hobby, that might otherwise stay on the sidelines.

Anyways, just a different philosophy.
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