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DSE subframe connectors

I am considering installing DSE subframe connectors on my '69 Camaro. DSE stated that some of the floor will have to be cut to install.
Has anyone installed these? If so, how far do they protrude above the origional floor? Once carpet is installed, are they really noticable?

DSE also strongly recommended their aluminum bosy to frame bushings. How much road noise and vibration will these transmit into the car?
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Re: DSE subframe connectors

They don't stick up more than about an 1-1 1/2 inches. The factory carpet covers them very easily and they aren't noticable at all. No one would notice them without looking under the car. I don't have any experience with the bushings. I'm sure someone else can help out with those.

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THE FRAME CONNECTORS ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET!!! easy install and not very noticable at all.i've installed a few sets and they fit like a glove.Solid bushings have been around for decades.just a solid hockey puck.no need on a street car,then again either are the frame connectors!!!
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They are not seen once carpet is in, looks like a regular floor. The bushings work well, no problems on mine.

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Re: DSE subframe connectors

I recently installed them in my car. This should give you an idea how much they are above the floor pan:


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Solid bushings have been around for decades.just a solid hockey puck.no need on a street car,then again either are the frame connectors!!!
Both are needed on most unibody vehicles. When you stiffen up the body, the suspension can do its job without any changes due to flexing. If you decide on the DSE connectors, you must run the solid bushings on the frame.
Solid frame bushings don't transfer much to the seat of the pants, as it prevents the frame from moving independent of the body, resulting in a better, more predictable ride and handling.

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Ditto Teetoe!!

I am very happy with the fitment of my cheap Jegs bolt-on S/F/C's!!

If I get all that carried away, I will weld them in along with the bolts now!!

And my S/F bushings are "hard as frozen hockey pucks" black POLY jobbers that I had to notch using a hacksaw so the S/F/C's would fit around the rear ones!! Crude but worked fine!!!!

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THE FRAME CONNECTORS ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET!!! easy install and not very noticable at all.i've installed a few sets and they fit like a glove.Solid bushings have been around for decades.just a solid hockey puck.no need on a street car,then again either are the frame connectors!!!
He is correct, had them on my TTA and loved them
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I did 'em (connectors and mounts) and I like. Can't say if they harshened the ride, since I did coilovers, rears springs, poly bushings, and short sidewall tires all at the same time. The ride did stiffen (harshen) up, but the handling is FANTASTIC.

I plagarized an idea from 69ProTouring (Thanks Scott!) to make the subframe removable. Instead of welding it to the front subframe, I welded the SFCs to the body and bolted them to the subframe. Some may say that bolting them in defeats the purpose of welding, but, although I'm not an engineer, I can't believe there is any significant difference in rigidity with this method in the post I made below:
https://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86236
Making fun of my welding skilz is not allowed...

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