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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 11, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
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help with ralley wheel decode

back ground---- i have a 67 camaro rs
i have what i think are 15" ralley wheels to clear front disc breaks.
codes by valve stem are
k-1-6 11 then valve stem hole 15 FW
i think they have 4.25 bs
what size tires are ideal fit this rim?
come off a chevelle? are these worth more to a chevelle guy than they are to a camaro guy?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 11, 02:52 PM
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Re: help with ralley wheel decode

FW is a fairly common 15x7 used on early to mid-70s Montes, Chevelles, etc. You are right on the backspacing.

I have not been keeping up with swap meet or ebay pricing, but there are a lot more FWs out there than the codes for 1st gen Z28s. They are generally the rally of choice for 1st gen guys looking for a 15 inch GM rally with a decent BS and reasonable pricing. If they were cherry and had good caps and rings, they might bring $100 a wheel, vs the much more expensive AD or YH 69 Z rims (the 67-68 Z used a 15x6 size).

From what I recall, guys are running sizes like 235 60 15 on all four corners with that rim width, but you should check through the stickies at the top of the wheel and tire forum, because other sizes might fit with the more rounded wheel openings of the 67-68 cars.

Also, try searching with something like "monte rally" if you don't find what you need on the stickies, or if none of the 67-68 guys chime in here.

I like a more narrow tire up front, but that is me. I run 215 65 15s on my Foose wheels with 4.75 BS, and they fit perfect and look good with the 245 60 15s on the rear.

If you go to TireRack.com , and plug in any of those sizes and look at the BFG Radial T/A or Dunlops, then hit the "other sizes or specs tab", you can see all the available sizes for a given tire line, and recommended rim width, resulting section width, etc.

You won't find many lower profile tires in the 15 inch size, if that is the look you are shooting for, but you'll find a decent selection of 70, 65, and 60 series tires.

Good luck, and post back if you need more info.

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Re: help with ralley wheel decode

thanks Eric.

I just wanted to make sure i had a good ralley wheel before i spent money blasting and painting the rims.
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Re: help with ralley wheel decode

FW? FW is not listed as a first gen code used by Chevrolet for Camaro's.

k-1-6 11 15 FW code breaks down to this:
k=Kelsey-Hayes
1=Romulus, MI wheel plant
6= 1966
11=November
15=15th day

If you really have code FW

FW 15X7 Backspace-4 1/4 Fits 71-up most any GM

1967 Wheel codes from CRG
Type - brake - code - size - vehicle used on
Steel - Drum - B - 14x5 - Base
Steel - Drum - FC - 14x6 - SS
Rally - Disc - DA - 14x5 - Base
Rally - Disc - DG - 14x6 - SS
Rally - Disc - DF - 15x6 - Z28

CRG database for first gen Camaro:
http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels


Full GM wheel code database reposted from Team Chevelle: Note I fixed the spelling of Camaro

When looking at original GM wheels, they will be stamped around the edges of the valve stem. This is good information to have, because it gives you the size / backspace / production date of the wheel. Below is a list of the available GM information;

XA 14X5 B-3 1/2 67 Chevy II with drum brakes
DA 14X5 B-3 7/8 67 Chevy II RALLY with disc brakes
DG 14X6 67 Camaro & Chevelle with disc brakes
XB 14X6 B-4 3/8 67 Chevelle SS, 68-69 Chevelle with F-70 Tires, 70 Chevelle
XN 14X6 B-3 3/4 68-69 Camaro & Nova with drum brakes. Different shaped outer
AE 14X6 B-4 3/8 70 Chevelle Station Wagon
XG 14X6 B-3 7/8 68-69 Camaro with disc brakes, 68-70 Chevy II/ Nova with disc brakes, 69-69 El Camino without disc brakes. Wider drop center than normal
DE 14X6 B-4 3/8 71-72 Nova & Chevelle, 6 hole wheels
YW 14X6 B-4 3/8 Exactly like XB, may have come on same cars
YJ 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Camaro/ Chevy II L72- ZL1, 70 Nova
AV 14X7 70-72 Camaro, 71-72 Nova, 6 hole wheel
XT 14X7 L72- ZL1 Non Rally Wheel
YA 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Chevelle SS Wheel
AO 14X7 B-4 3/8 70 Camaro &69 Chevelle SS Wheel
DB 15X5 67 Passenger Cars with disc brakes.
DF 15X6 B-4 1/16 67-68 Camaro Z28
DC (BIG) 15X6 B-3 1/2 67 Corvette, No other stampings on rim
DC 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (early models)
FI 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (later models) Riveted instead of welded together
YS 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 El Camino
FW 15X7 B-4 1/4 71-up most any GM
AG 15X7 B-3 3/4 68 Corvette (will take 15x8 Beauty rings)
YH 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 69 narrow drop center
AD 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 68 wide drop center
AV 15X7 70, 71, 73 Camaro Z28 5 spoke wheel
AZ 15X8 B-4 69-82 Corvette

Here are a few extra notes:
* All the rally wheels made in 1967 have big marking letters, no date code, a little bit different shaped center and slightly bigger holes in the center.
* The 15x7 beauty ring will go on all the 15x6 wheels.
* All the hubcaps interchange with each other.


But that being said, one Chevelle site does list is as an alt to code YH
http://www.chevellestuff.com/qd/rally_wheels.htm


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Re: help with ralley wheel decode

I don't know if you ran the search I suggested, but I did and found this one with some useful info on tire sizes that work:

https://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...ht=monte+rally

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... 6= 1966


... Here are a few extra notes:
* All the rally wheels made in 1967 have big marking letters, no date code, ...
Or ... 1976
Which of course these wheels are ...


They do have/had a production date
It's just not on the outside of the rim by the valve stem hole - because they were not manufactured by Kellsey-Hayes

Oh, I have about a dozen or so more codes in my list for those same years ...

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Re: help with ralley wheel decode

ok thanks guys for the information.

so the main point is they will work for my camaro without any problems?

also i should paint the back of the wheel in satin black and the fronts silver argent with the overspray on the back for kinda sorta original look right?
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ok thanks guys for the information.

so the main point is they will work for my camaro without any problems?

also i should paint the back of the wheel in satin black and the fronts silver argent with the overspray on the back for kinda sorta original look right?
They should fit with the right rubber and yes the colors are right black rear with Argent Silver on the front, over spray through the slots.

There is a very good thread here of wheels and tire combination's. Most days its in the todays post listings.

B F Goodrich TA's are getting rare in the wild since they were discontinued, but are still a popular choice. Tirerack.com still has some sizes of TA's in stock. The orignial BFG molds were sold to Coker Tire last year but Coker had not cranked up production on all sizes when I went to buy a few months back. I lucked out and tirerack had an acceptable size in stock for my 14x7 wheels and I'm happy with them.


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