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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old May 24th, 19, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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trim rings will not seat and stick out

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Hello all,

read the sticky,, searched and i still have to ask a simpleton question. When i had this car 30 years ago, it had Cragars so i am a rally rim novice.

I always thought my rings stuck out because f the narrow tires but i now have new BFGs and I noticed the the rings stick off the rim by ~1/4". The ID diameter of the rim where the clips press in is ~14.5". On the trim ring there is a shoulder around the circumference and it measures ~14.750ish". It bottoms out on the rim where the weights would go before the ring will flush with the rim/tire.

One ring, with a mallet and a lot of effort, did seat even with the rim. Are these just junk rings?


I am trying to post a picture but this site will not allow it. Can someone educate me on the limitations or what i am doing wrong? Do i need to get a membership? even then is it 10 or 20 meg which is not much for quality res photos???

thanks,
Chris

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old May 25th, 19, 04:53 AM
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Re: trim rings will not seat and stick out

I don't own a Camaro but my '99 Dodge Ram has trim rings that dont ever look to seat all the way in as does yours. Just saying. I don't know why but thought it was normal or just an engineering problem. Could the wedge action be to help them stay on? I' havent lost one yet.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old May 25th, 19, 08:58 AM
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Re: trim rings will not seat and stick out

Chris, I think you simply have a miss match of rings and wheels. Some aftermarket rings
won't fit factory rally's correctly and vise versa. Most factory style rings have 8 prongs and
are tough to find. A lot of the aftermarket rings have teeth as in your pic but most are a lot
more aggressive than yours with probably 2x as many teeth and can tear the wheel paint.
Your rings may be a factory ring just not meant for your wheels.

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Links to pictures because i can not upload them to this post

https://ibb.co/j5PKxdS
MODERATOR EDIT:


https://ibb.co/YXjpL3H
MODERATOR EDIT:


Not sure how you were trying to post the pictures, but you need to use image tags using the picture icon on the tool bar.

I am trying to post a picture but this site will not allow it. Can someone educate me on the limitations or what i am doing wrong? Do i need to get a membership? even then is it 10 or 20 meg which is not much for quality res photos???
A combination of issues. Size might be the issue but not the particular photos, but total storage size as you are not a supporting member a.k.a. paid, you only have enough storage space to load a profile picture, and limited space in your garage. If you become a supporting member your photos can be uploaded to our servers and will remain for all members to enjoy. Recent ransom tactics from photo-sharing sites that changed use agreements left a bad taste in the mouths of many users and left tons of posts in forums across the internet dark of photos and mainly useless. So consider joining the community.

If you don't would have to use image tags to an off-site photo share for all your pictures. Just go "Advanced" and then in your post where you want the photo click the insert image tool icon and paste the full public url to your photo. That's how I got your two to show up above.

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Hello all,

read the sticky,, searched and i still have to ask a simpleton question. When i had this car 30 years ago, it had Cragars so i am a rally rim novice.

I always thought my rings stuck out because f the narrow tires but i now have new BFGs and I noticed the the rings stick off the rim by ~1/4". The ID diameter of the rim where the clips press in is ~14.5". On the trim ring there is a shoulder around the circumference and it measures ~14.750ish". It bottoms out on the rim where the weights would go before the ring will flush with the rim/tire.

One ring, with a mallet and a lot of effort, did seat even with the rim. Are these just junk rings?

thanks,
Chris
So I think the depth of the rings you have are too much for that particular wheel. The ring should have a gap at the inside to accommodate for balancing of the wheel and allow water to flow out from under the ring. My gap is about a quarter inch. That seems to be the right amount you are seeing sticking out on the outside.

Are these original GM Kelsey Hayes wheels or reproductions? If original what is the stamp code near the air filler hole? That will tell us the original make and model these wheels were for and the corresponding ring depth you need for them. In general terms Chevrolet rings were interchangeable across Chevelle, Impala, and Camaro lines but Corvette had different depths for the same wheel sizes.

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old May 25th, 19, 09:45 PM Thread Starter
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Re: trim rings will not seat and stick out

Brian,

I have a stamp GM with an E under it and also something that looks like R* with a 9 under it.

there is something near the air fill 20something. the 20 is clear,, if there is more to it i can not read it.
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Re: trim rings will not seat and stick out

Maybe your rings will better fit boyd66k20's Dodge Ram, lol. You can sell them to him and buy some designed for the Rally wheels.

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Chris - Original KH GM Chevrolet Wheel stamps are in the following format all in a single line:
Manufacturer Plant Year Month (usually the filler hole) Day wheel code
So K19 3 (hole) 5 YJ works out to k=kelsey hayes 1=Romulus MI plant 9=1969 3=march (air filler hole) 5=fifth day YJ which was for ss350 14x7

Later wheels made in the 70's had some variant of this stamping. Can you post a photo of what you have? What size are they 14 or 15?

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Chris, This link will give an idea of what you're looking for to identify your wheels.
Camaro Chassis - Suspension, Axle, Brakes, & Wheels

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