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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 25th, 05, 05:52 AM Thread Starter
 
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If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

I would like to get a 275 tire on my 67 so that I don't have to lower the car to fill up the wheel well gap. I was looking at 18's and wondered,,,Why not 20's?
I'm not a big fan of the "wide open" spoke styles that have alot of space between the spokes that, no matter how big a disc brake you get still look like you can see through them to whatever car is parked next to you.

So I was looking at 275/35/20 vs 275/40/18

My considerations are:
1) I don't want to lower the car 3 or 4 inches to get the car to sit down over the tires (like with a 245 or 225 tire).
2) The tire has to be a performance tire (Y speed rating).
3) therer are some nasty Makevelli rims. Their "Casino" wheel is bad *** (if you go to their site it is in the Gallary section on a new 'Benz).
4) Also I am one of those guys that is always looking for that ultimate new item,,,so sometimes I torture myself searching for new combo's.
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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 25th, 05, 07:21 AM
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

Yes it can be done, but IMHO anything over 18s do not look right on a first gen. You will also lose cornering, acceleration and braking perfomance due to the added mass. Also, the taller tire will raise the whole car higher off of the ground. That raises the center of gravity which lessens cornering perfomance.

You posted about the Guldstand mod in the suspension forum so I am assuming you are looking for better handling. If so then you need to lower the car not raise it. You will need as little rotating mass on the tires not more. The 20s will be counter productive to what it looks like you are trying to do. However, it is your car so if that is the look you are going for than I say do it.

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Yes it can be done, but IMHO anything over 18s do not look right on a first gen. You will also lose cornering, acceleration and braking perfomance due to the added mass. Also, the taller tire will raise the whole car higher off of the ground. That raises the center of gravity which lessens cornering perfomance.

You posted about the Guldstand mod in the suspension forum so I am assuming you are looking for better handling. If so then you need to lower the car not raise it. You will need as little rotating mass on the tires not more. The 20s will be counter productive to what it looks like you are trying to do. However, it is your car so if that is the look you are going for than I say do it.

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My thoughts exactly.

In addition, the wheels will be more susceptible to damage from potholes etc. due to the short sidewall of the tire.
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post #4 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 25th, 05, 07:41 PM
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

Granted the 20's won't handle as well as the 18's they look SOOOOOO good on a Gen I. If you want a track car 20's are useless but they can't be beat for the show stopper.

Oh and no worries with a 275/35/20 when it comes to rim damage and so forth, there is plenty of tire there. I have them on the front of my heavy truck and they work great.

Or compromise and get 19's
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I run 18" Budniks. They're cool but 19's I think would nice. Oh well, mine was done in '98 so, back the it was cutting edge. 20's, might be a bit much IMHO. Again, just an opinion!

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post #6 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 05, 02:29 PM
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

No way, 20's are where it's at.

This one has 19's and 22's
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

Doesn't look right to me. Save the "dubs" for the tuners.

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post #8 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 05, 04:54 PM
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

sorry, but I cannot bite my lip here. That looks very stupid.

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post #9 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 05, 06:13 PM
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

2 years from now it will look even more crazy than it does now. I like the use of larger rims but they have to be sized to the car. Say 20's on the back of an Impala but those 22's are bordering on plain funny looking. I know I am in the minority in that thinking. Great craftsmanship on the car but sorry it does look funny looking.
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post #10 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 05, 07:43 PM
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I don't want to take this tread more off topic and I usually stay away from these types of discusions but...... As far as the black '69 goes I think that everybody's point is well taken on the performance aspect and practicallity aspect of the 19s and 22s as well as maybe being way over the top with the "look" . I think that combo was picked because it absolutely demands your attention whether you love it - hate it - or you're somewhere in between. The car speaks for itself but there is so many high end '69s out there right now - you almost have to do something "shocking" to be noticed by the masses. After all the car was a top 5 SMOY finalist. With that said if performance is the goal I agree 18s are the way to go - If the "look" is what your after 18s and 20s or 19s and 20s will still get everyone's attention and still be drivable if measured and fitted correctly. The choise is yours - hope you are happy with whatever you choose.
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I don't want to take this tread more off topic and I usually stay away from these types of discusions but...... As far as the black '69 goes I think that everybody's point is well taken on the performance aspect and practicallity aspect of the 19s and 22s as well as maybe being way over the top with the "look" . I think that combo was picked because it absolutely demands your attention whether you love it - hate it - or you're somewhere in between. The car speaks for itself but there is so many high end '69s out there right now - you almost have to do something "shocking" to be noticed by the masses. After all the car was a top 5 SMOY finalist. With that said if performance is the goal I agree 18s are the way to go - If the "look" is what your after 18s and 20s or 19s and 20s will still get everyone's attention and still be drivable if measured and fitted correctly. The choise is yours - hope you are happy with whatever you choose.
My thoughts exactly.

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Sure, those wheels get your attention, but what really pops out at me is the seats and a lack of headrests. That screams street rod to me... not muscle car. JMHO. To each their own - and I'd still go for a ride in it if offered.
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post #13 of 46 (permalink) Old Oct 27th, 05, 06:09 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: If 18's are OK,,,,How about 20's?

That 69 is sick,,,But how can that not rub with it being so far down over the tires.

My thinking was that a 67 or 68 with the bigger wheel wells may be more reasonable looking. My car will be mostly a cruiser (thus, cannot be too low),,,see an occasional show (that is the 20" angle),,but I will romp from time to time (so it has to be fairly well behaved in a corner or stopping).

But looks are at least 60% of my consideartioon on this project,,,,One of those World 427 small blocks should take care of the other 40%.

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That 69 is sick,,,But how can that not rub with it being so far down over the tires.
It's bagged.
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It's bagged.
How about a few grand in metal work as well to keep it from the wheel wells. I guess I am more a function over form type of guy.

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