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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 07, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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i asked a question earlier about Minitubbing. BUT im not all sure that i have to go that route. What is the absolute biggest wheel/tire combo i can put in the rear for a 69 camaro? I can sacrifice cutting up some of the inner fender if need be. im not sure i would have to. i called a wheel dealer and the wheel i want for the rear is a BMW mesh style 20x10 and he recommended 295/30/20 tires... Could i get this accomplished without minitubbing? i would like a nice tucked look on the car.
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Brad.. just mini tubb it you tight wad Wait until I get mine done after the starbird show and you can look at it.... I don't think you can get a 20" wheel in the stock wheelwell.. A buddy of mine has 17x9.5 on his and they rub while cornering.... It's only money, you can make some more tomorrow

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Re: BIIIG Wheel question??

by the way.. this isn't the right place to ask about wheels.. There is a thread specifically for tires/wheels or body...

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by the way.. this isn't the right place to ask about wheels.. There is a thread specifically for tires/wheels or body...

haha well i havent been on here long enough to check out the whole place
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Brad.. just mini tubb it you tight wad Wait until I get mine done after the starbird show and you can look at it.... I don't think you can get a 20" wheel in the stock wheelwell.. A buddy of mine has 17x9.5 on his and they rub while cornering.... It's only money, you can make some more tomorrow

haha well if i made the paychecks you did Garry i would be all over it. I actually talked to a guy on Cardomain.com that did 20s all the way around, EVEN with a 4 inch drop. He said he didnt have to cut anything and pretty sure he didnt have to modify anything either. Hes running 20x9s I know of in the rear and either 20x8 or 20x9 in the fronts.

here is his link...its a very beautiful car
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806256
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Maybe?????????

Probably not on a '69, but I ran 298/53-14's M&S tires on my '67 using my stock 14" x 6" steel wheels with 3.75" back spacing on the back by using coli-overs to raise her up like 4" or so.. I say probably not b/c a '67/'68 has a taller/round opening whereas the '69 is flattened even tho it is wider both the other ways, I think?

You will do better than I did b/c the lower shock mount will tuck up inside the 20" rim so you can gain at least 1.25" to 1.5" or so towards the inner wall..

Did he post pic's of his tire and wheel combination on his car so everybody could get a look at it?

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I doubt you will be able to get a 295 on a 20" rim in the back w/o modifing the sheetmetal. The extra height is what hurts you. The same applies to the front. I would think a 8" is the best you are going to do.
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Maybe?????????

Probably not on a '69, but I ran 298/53-14's M&S tires on my '67 using my stock 14" x 6" steel wheels with 3.75" back spacing on the back by using coli-overs to raise her up like 4" or so.. I say probably not b/c a '67/'68 has a taller/round opening whereas the '69 is flattened even tho it is wider both the other ways, I think?

You will do better than I did b/c the lower shock mount will tuck up inside the 20" rim so you can gain at least 1.25" to 1.5" or so towards the inner wall..

Did he post pic's of his tire and wheel combination on his car so everybody could get a look at it?

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yeah i posted the link above but here it is again....

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806256
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You'd be living life dangerously with those sidewalls here in Oklahoma Brad. As you can see he doesn't have much sidewall at all with those 20's all the way around...Good way to ruin a good set of wheels.... But hey, they are only money and you can make some more tomorrow, right???

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The Camaro on car domain has 20x9s all the way around. It doesn't say in the text but I believe they are 5.5" backspace. The car has Hotchkis frt and rear springs with 2" dropped spindles and a 1" lowering block (because of the 20" wheel the tie rod end is probably inside instead of against the tire/wheel). The front tires are 245/30s and the rears are 275/30s. The owner did say there were rubbing issues in the front so he went with the 30 series front tire (had 35s) and raised the car with a 1/2" spring spacer. Here's the link http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806256/1

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I bet it has front rubbing issues with 20s on a 9" rim with 5.5"bs. He also raised the front suspension making bad geometry worse. He can have it.
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The Camaro on car domain has 20x9s all the way around. It doesn't say in the text but I believe they are 5.5" backspace. The car has Hotchkis frt and rear springs with 2" dropped spindles and a 1" lowering block (because of the 20" wheel the tie rod end is probably inside instead of against the tire/wheel). The front tires are 245/30s and the rears are 275/30s. The owner did say there were rubbing issues in the front so he went with the 30 series front tire (had 35s) and raised the car with a 1/2" spring spacer. Here's the link http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806256/1

Yeah i know i can do the 20x9 without a problem. AND, i left this out of the original post because i was just referring to the back wheels...I will be running either an 18" or 19" wheel in the front. I know that makes a TON of difference as opposed to the 20". Most likely I will opt for the 18" rim in front.
As for my suspension it has Hotchkis 2" drop springs in front. thats AS LOW as i want to go for now. I love the way my car sits. its perfect TO ME. And I realize that by sticking a bigger wheel up front will slighty raise it... In the rear i have just some 69 Z28 leaf springs, nothing major, but yet it still gives it the right stance for the wheel/tires i have on it now.

here is what the car looks like as of now... i would like to retain this same stance if at all possible, maybe EVEN got 1 1/2"-2" lower in the rear to even the car out
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In my opinion, 20s on a first gen are fugly. 18s is as big as I'd go.

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In my opinion, 20s on a first gen are fugly. 18s is as big as I'd go.
ditto, but its just opinion
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In my opinion, 20s on a first gen are fugly. 18s is as big as I'd go.
Not only that, but it lessens perfomance as well, but I have given up on that argument.
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