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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 08, 06:15 PM Thread Starter
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I am putting a 454 in my 69 Camaro. Can anyone suggest a good set of headers that will clear the power steering box and any other obstructions?

Thanks for your help.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 08, 07:45 PM
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Re: big block headers

Hooker Competition Headers 2457 is what I went with after searching here. When I called Hooker they also recommended the 2205.

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thanks for the advice, I had heard Hookers but it is nice to hear a confirmation.


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Re: big block headers

I am running the Hooker Super Comps with 2'' primary tubes w/Flaming River power steering. We ended up shaving the corner of power steering box a tad. Also, on passenger side had to mess with a-arm bolt a tiny bit. They fit reeeeeal tight to ps box but no dents or dings in my headers. Just make sure you have the correct engine mounts.

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lemon headers

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Re: big block headers

I have a set of the Hooker Super Comps pn 2111 (1.875" primary) and they fit witht he factory p/s box and pump with out any issue. The 2205 ( 2.0" primary) I would imagine would fit he same. You must of course, use all of the factory style BB engine mounts including the pedestals as they space the Bb over to the passenger side apprx.5". Without using these parts, probably no header that you will buy will fit with the p/s parts and you will have nothing but problems trying to make things fit.
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 13th, 08, 10:00 PM
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Re: big block headers

The newer style 2205's route the 5 tube over the 7,..no problems with the steering box.

Do a search "2205 Headers", for more info. They're the best fitting BB headers I've used (tried 3-4 others).

Good luck!
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I have the newer style Hooker Super Comps 2" ID. They suck! Here, look:

OK, this is the list of fitment problems from my web site;
1. The locking steering column lock lever hits the #5 tube. I had to reverse the actuating rod and also bend the column lever.
2. The number six tube was touching the upper idler arm mounting bolt.
3. The #2 tube was interfering with the tie rod end. It needed to be dented-in a quarter inch.
4. And look at that spark plug access for #'s 5 and 7! Number 5 plug can only be installed with an open-end wrench on the socket and #7 can only be accessed from below by JACKING UP THE CAR. Even the plug wire has to be routed to the rear of the head and come up from below!
5. Don't forget the pound of iron I had to grind off of the block to recess the starter motor. And it's a mini starter!
6. After starting the engine a new vibration was apparent. The #5 tube was hitting the power steering steel line. I bent it clear. Of course that is not the fault of Hooker. These headers are sold for non-power steering cars. I sure wish I had my Mickey Thompson Super Scavengers back.

I'm still angry!

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lemon headers
Good timing for me. I have a brand new set of Lemons Headers for sale in the classified section. Hookers are a joke compared to my headers for sale!
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I have the newer style Hooker Super Comps 2" ID. They suck! Here, look:

OK, this is the list of fitment problems from my web site;
1. The locking steering column lock lever hits the #5 tube. I had to reverse the actuating rod and also bend the column lever.
2. The number six tube was touching the upper idler arm mounting bolt.
3. The #2 tube was interfering with the tie rod end. It needed to be dented-in a quarter inch.
4. And look at that spark plug access for #'s 5 and 7! Number 5 plug can only be installed with an open-end wrench on the socket and #7 can only be accessed from below by JACKING UP THE CAR. Even the plug wire has to be routed to the rear of the head and come up from below!
5. Don't forget the pound of iron I had to grind off of the block to recess the starter motor. And it's a mini starter!
6. After starting the engine a new vibration was apparent. The #5 tube was hitting the power steering steel line. I bent it clear. Of course that is not the fault of Hooker. These headers are sold for non-power steering cars. I sure wish I had my Mickey Thompson Super Scavengers back.

I'm still angry!

Fred are those OE heads or aftermarket raised-port jobs?

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Re: big block headers

Thanks for the great tips and ideas. I definitely do not want to have to fight to get headers to fit and then have to fight to do maintenance. I am still tryng to decide. Is there a website for Lemon headers?

Thanks
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Fred are those OE heads or aftermarket raised-port jobs?
OE, bought em new, casting dates late '73, for ZL1's, 704's I think. Exhausts are round ports.

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Thanks for the great tips and ideas. I definitely do not want to have to fight to get headers to fit and then have to fight to do maintenance. I am still tryng to decide. Is there a website for Lemon headers?

Thanks
Try.....www.lemonsheaders.com

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