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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 08, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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Frustrating problem..wont start.

This problem has been ongoing for me for almost two years now. Im not sure why i havent really looked into fixing it completely before now but..better late than never i guess. Hoping some folks might be able to shed some light as to what would cause this.

After my car has been sitting for at least a couple days. And its seems usually in combination with colder temps. Or if we had colder temps at some point while it was sitting.

The car will not start. It does not get spark. I have to pull off the distributor cap, mess with the wires that plug into the cap (not the plug wires) and then i put back on. Basically by messing with the wires i mean pulling them off the male leads and then putting them back on. These wires are the the Tach wire, Battery wire, C- wire, Ground wire, and B+ wire. I have no idea what im doing to make any difference but after i do this it always starts right up. Its obviously something in the cap/wires. What would be the cause of this strange phonomenon?

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 08, 12:37 PM
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Re: Frustrating problem..wont start.

What brand distributor are you using? GM HEI? Do you have a true 12 volt wire going to it or is it the resistor wire you're using?

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What distributor are you using? ?
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Re: Frustrating problem..wont start.

Im not sure about the 12 volt wire/resistor question. Sorry.
Heres a few pics of my distributor and the wire leads im talking about. I dont pull or mess with the wires you see pictured rather the wires from the car that plug into them.





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Re: Frustrating problem..wont start.

i just had a similar problem.i barely wiggle the same wires you are talking about and it would die.never had a problem while i've been driving it for the 3 years.i just noticed it while messing with the distributor on another issue.the wires were loose so i popped the the wires out of the plastic insulating ends and took some needle nose pliers and bent the ends so they would fit on the terminals alittle tighter up in the cap,put the plastic ends back on ,fired it up and wiggled the wires ,no problem now
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post #7 of 36 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 08, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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I tried that too...messing with the ends so they would fit tighter. Didnt seem to make a difference.
My problem is when the car is stone cold. If the engine is warm or anywhere even remotely close to warm it will start up every single time without fail. Its only after the cars been sitting for some time and usually in conjunction with colder temps outside. I know it sounds weird but its happened enough that i know the pattern.


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post #8 of 36 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 08, 01:38 PM
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From the factory these cars had to have a resistor wire coming from the fuse box because the points couldn't handle 12 volts. If you just used your old wire from your points coil, you are not getting proper voltage. The wire is white until it goes to the fuse box, engine side. On the fuse box interior side it is an orange wire that is a 12 volt ignition source. As for my first question, is the distributor a quality OE or aftermarket, or is it a cheap made distributor? I've seen some really crappy China made distributors going around lately.
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post #9 of 36 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 08, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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I guess i was thinking more the coil than distributor. While i would really like to know what would cause this strange occurence... i just went out and bought a new coil. Im not 100% sure thats the problem but didnt know what else it could be. For $25 i figured it was easily worth a shot. I just put the new coil in and it fired right up. I couldnt get it to start at all prior to that. So maybe it was just a coil gone haywire...no pun intended.


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The Chinese made distributors I've seen come as a complete assembly with cap, and coil. I hope you have solved your problem. Tom
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Thanks Tom. Me too.


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the problem could be in the terminal ends used..i had a simialar problem with some ends i changed in converting to hei..in my 67 convertible....replaced terminals ..no more problem....i had allready changed wire from the thru -wall connector
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Re: Frustrating problem..wont start.

Well problem not solved. Went to start it this morning after sitting for a couple days. Cold nights..no start.

So for an experiment i took a hair dryer and blew hot air on the distributor for about 1 minute. Got back in the car and it fired right up.

What the heck is causing this problem?


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Have you tried another cap ? Possibly a hairline crack in the cap.

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Have you tried another cap ? Possibly a hairline crack in the cap.
Yeah, i guess at this point buy a new cap... and rotor... and go from there...


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