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I found a 350 today with a few oddities.....

Today I pulled a 350 out of some poor guys s-10 v-8 conversion that he never finished. the truck was trash so I figured what the hell lets see whats in the mill. first off it had roller tip rockers.... though hmmm. The heads are 882's but they seem to be freshly redone, the springs look new, NO sludge etc in them at all. Then I pull the timing cover, GEAR DRIVE....with a cam button? its one of the ones that fits under a stock cover. How good are these? worth re using?

Then I flip her over, pull the rest of the pan bolts, 4 bolt main (good) and looking at it it looks like it hasn't even been broken in yet, you can still see the hone marks on the cylinder walls! Score.

Long of short its a 39700010 4 bolt block from 74 it has the 010 and 020 under the timing cover, heads are 333882's freshly redone, roller tip rockers, and i am unsure of the cam.....

What do you all think? since I don't want to drop 1400 on a set of heads for the 327 just yet, do you think it will get me threw the summer? what kind of power would it be capable of? with headers and a torker ii intake?

Is there any way to ID pistons from the under side? I didn't dig to far because the engine if FILTHY. supposedly its been sitting since spring of 2000.

Later I will post some pics of my findings.

What do you think?

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Re: I found a 350 today with a few oddities.....

Sounds like a decent find.... just need the rest of the list.
Heads may work out just fine for now.

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Price ???
FREE!!!!!! Well my time to pull it!

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Re: I found a 350 today with a few oddities.....

Ok here are the pics

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The High Tin High Nickle Marking (one of them)



And the thing i just found and I hope its not a deal killer.......


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Re: I found a 350 today with a few oddities.....

eww...cracked starter bolt. lol...that sux. not a show stopper but definately slows it down. Youll have to put a stud threw it and bolt it that way.
Looks like a good deal. Id drive it. 300HP for free is never a bad deal.

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Free ? sweet.

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Wonder what the purpose of the Cam Button was; Do you need one for the Floating Gear Drive? You sure you don't have a Roller Cam in there? What do the lifters look like?

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Wonder what the purpose of the Cam Button was; Do you need one for the Floating Gear Drive? You sure you don't have a Roller Cam in there? What do the lifters look like?
It must be for the gear drive, cus that was my first thought! but no luck, definetly flat tappet, not sure if they are solids or not. there was no marking on the end of the cam either so I am gfoing to have to pull it to find out what the grind is.....

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It must be for the gear drive, cus that was my first thought! but no luck, definetly flat tappet, not sure if they are solids or not. there was no marking on the end of the cam either so I am gfoing to have to pull it to find out what the grind is.....
The gear drive I took off mine had that same button and plate on the cam. I gave the gear drive and the Torker II intake away to a buddy who circle tracks and put on a double roller and Performer RPM. Just personal preference.
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The gear drive I took off mine had that same button and plate on the cam. I gave the gear drive and the Torker II intake away to a buddy who circle tracks and put on a double roller and Performer RPM. Just personal preference.
I am actually leaning towards the same thing. I have a newer torker II that I will probably throw on it, and i am really leaning towards a double roller. I was turning the engine over and it seems to have play as it loads one idler vs the other..... I cant see how that is more accurate....

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I am actually leaning towards the same thing. I have a newer torker II that I will probably throw on it, and i am really leaning towards a double roller. I was turning the engine over and it seems to have play as it loads one idler vs the other..... I cant see how that is more accurate....
They don't stretch and don't break is the main thing. And some people like the noise. I spent too much on my exhaust to listen to the gear drive.
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Wonder what the purpose of the Cam Button was; Do you need one for the Floating Gear Drive? You sure you don't have a Roller Cam in there? What do the lifters look like?
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It must be for the gear drive, cus that was my first thought! but no luck, definetly flat tappet, not sure if they are solids or not. there was no marking on the end of the cam either so I am gfoing to have to pull it to find out what the grind is.....
That is a Pete Jackson Gear drive.I believe that cam button helps control front to rear movement of the gear set behind the timing cover. There should also be a thin thrust surface bearing behind that cam sprocket to protect that block. If I can find the installation directions for the Pete Jackson gear drive' I'll post some info on it.

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That is a Pete Jackson Gear drive.I believe that cam button helps control front to rear movement of the gear set behind the timing cover. There should also be a thin thrust surface bearing behind that cam sprocket to protect that block. If I can find the installation directions for the Pete Jackson gear drive' I'll post some info on it.

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Yep, it is there (thrust washer).... I figured out why it was there once I took it off....

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And the thing i just found and I hope its not a deal killer.......


Pull the soft plug in the top pic and see if the back of the cam has a part#.

That starter bolt boss has a bunch of threads above the break. That broken area is where the GM bolt with the large shank indexes. Still enough left to work.

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