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stubborn BBC motor mounts

I am trying to swap in a set of ES Poly motor mounts on my 396. They are the stock 1969 tall and narrow rubber mounts. Problem is I cannot get the old one out.

I have the disconnected the Z-bar for the clutch, dropped the exhaust, removed the headers, fan, dist. cap, etc

When I jack (with plywood) under the pan, the whole chassis lifts. The motor mounts are not separating from the frame mounts.

I am stumped, any ideas?
I suppose I can remove the frame mounts, but trying to avoid that.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

Yeah try disconnecting the trany mount and see if that helps (jack it up toward the rear of the block). Then jack it back up and if it doesn't come apart stick a long screw driver to help pry it apart.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

Tom, don't yell at me. I didn't see where you pulled the bolts between the engine and frame halves.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

no yelling, at least not anymore
Yes I did pull the bolts.

Looks like I need to invest in a prybar - LARGE screw driver to pry those mounting tabs away from the frame mount. it is a pretty tight fit.

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no yelling, at least not anymore
Yes I did pull the bolts.

Looks like I need to invest in a prybar - LARGE screw driver to pry those mounting tabs away from the frame mount. it is a pretty tight fit.

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It will be tight going in too.... So get it close and have some patience look in the hole with a flashlight and adjust the motor from front to back and side to side. It will also help to us a punch or a Philip's screw driver to get the hole center, i did this last week and still had to smack the bolt a little and used a socket wrench and threaded it threw.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

Thanks Skip,

Did you install the Poly mounts?

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Thanks Skip,

Did you install the Poly mounts?

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Yes and wow they are a tight fit. I was lucky enough because i had the frame mounts off the frame and i went a head to dry fit them with a little help of a rubber mallet to smack the motor mounts over the frame mounts. Then installed the frame mounts and motor after, still a tight fit but the motor stays put when its running.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

ended up taking the frame mounts off, but it also gave me a chance to clean everything up. Removing the frame mounts was not really that bad, the trick was getting the bolts started inside the crossmember during re-assembly.

The Energy Suspension mounts fit perfectly
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ended up taking the frame mounts off, but it also gave me a chance to clean everything up. Removing the frame mounts was not really that bad, the trick was getting the bolts started inside the crossmember during re-assembly.

The Energy Suspension mounts fit perfectly
Nice job Tom ...... What do you have planed for exhaust manifolds or headers.

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

I've got a set of the Patriot shorty headers. They are easy to remove and it gave me plenty of clearance for getting at the mounts.

This all started as a conversion from manual steering to AGR PS box. Since I need a PS pump and new brackets decided to convert everything to a March Serpentine setup.

This was just a good excuse to change over to the poly mounts - clearance between the headers and new PS box is going to be tight.
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I've got a set of the Patriot shorty headers. They are easy to remove and it gave me plenty of clearance for getting at the mounts.

This all started as a conversion from manual steering to AGR PS box. Since I need a PS pump and new brackets decided to convert everything to a March Serpentine setup.

This was just a good excuse to change over to the poly mounts - clearance between the headers and new PS box is going to be tight.
Awesome sounds like you did your homework . Take some pics when your all done and post them i and others would love to see the progress in the shorty's .

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Re: stubborn BBC motor mounts

I just put a set of the shorty headers on the 69. I had to jack up the drivers side to install the header because the steering box was in the way. The passenger side fit with no problems.


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I just put a set of the shorty headers on the 69. I had to jack up the drivers side to install the header because the steering box was in the way. The passenger side fit with no problems.

Holy cow that thing is beautiful and im very jellious... Mike boy is sure does look sweet.

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Thats very "perty'" very nice I like fulie cars,
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