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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 09, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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OK guys I have an engine vibration at roughly 3200 RPM on my 327 in my 67 camaro in every gear. If I go to roughly 3400-3500 RPM in each gear it lessens quite a bit and this is in each gear. Does anyone have any ideas of what this could be any ideas will be appreciated.

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Re: Engine Vibration

can you be more specific? Does it do it in park? Only when you rev it? Only when you floor it thru the gears? What have you worked on lately? How long has it been doing this?

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Sorry will try and be more specific. Ok the car started as a 327 Powerglide car. Since I have replaced the Powerglide with a Muncie that has been completely gone through and replaced the 10 bolt with a 9". I have left the engine completely stock I have only owned the car about 2 years and the guy I bought it from said that it had been rebuilt, but I haven't touched it. As far as the vibration goes to tell you the truth I didn't really drive it but for about a month with the Powerglide and 10 bolt that I don't remember the car vibrating or not. But if I am just going through the gears not hammering on it or anything just bring it up to about 3600 or so and then shifting just a smooth acceleration I will get the vibration in every gear at about 3200 RPM or so right before 3200 no vibration and a little after 3200 the vibration I wouldn't say competely goes away but probably dissipates by 75-80%. Now then if I am at 3200 and put the clutch in, the vibration pretty much goes away, and if I let back out on the clutch and resume it comes right back so I think this eliminates the driveline????. Now you were saying will it do it if I just rev up the engine in neutral I really can't feel any vibration, don't know if this is because the engine really isn't under any load. I hope this is enough detail if not let me know.

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Re: Engine Vibration

Either ignition is missing or you have wrong balancer (seen bad vibes come from wrong balancer installed)


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Do you have a rubber or poly trans mount?
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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old Jul 24th, 09, 05:52 AM Thread Starter
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I have a rubber transmission mount.
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post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old Jul 24th, 09, 06:41 AM
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Could be driveshaft related. Pull it and see if the u joints have a stiff feel to them or are excessivelly loose.
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post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old Jul 24th, 09, 07:11 AM
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Re: Engine Vibration

I had a similar problem with my 69 Z. I had the driveshaft balanced and it helped some. I later found out that one of the bolt "ears" on the trans was broken off. I only had 3 bolts holding the trans in. The previous owner I guess "forgot" to tell me.
I would say your issue is trans or clutch or even rear end related. Something is out of alignment. IF it stops with the clutch in, is probably isn't your engine.

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Re: Engine Vibration

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If it does it at the same rpm in all gears then it isnt the driveshaft. It is very possible that it is the clutch or the flywheel, I would lean more towards the clutch. Most factory and aftermarket flywheels for the 327 are pretty well balanced. I have however had several customers over the last few years that have had similar issues and replacing the clutch has always solved the problem. To fix it properly, you really should take the trans out and have your machine shop check the balance of the flywheel and the clutch. What brand clutch is it ?

I doubt if it is the damper since you didnt change it.

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If it does it at the same rpm in all gears then it isnt the driveshaft. It is very possible that it is the clutch or the flywheel, I would lean more towards the clutch. Most factory and aftermarket flywheels for the 327 are pretty well balanced. I have however had several customers over the last few years that have had similar issues and replacing the clutch has always solved the problem. To fix it properly, you really should take the trans out and have your machine shop check the balance of the flywheel and the clutch. What brand clutch is it ?

I doubt if it is the damper since you didnt change it.
BillK the clutch is a zoom clutch and pressure plate I bough from summit, the Flywheel I bought new from summit it is a HAYS flywheel. Didn't say this before but I do have a little shimmy or rattle when taking off in first gear. I know that is probably the clutch because as soon as it is fully engaged or past the point of the rattle it goes completely away. But let me ask you this if it was the clutch making the vibration at 3200 RPM wouldn't it vibrate with the car in neutral and the clutch out when I rev up the motor because everything would be turning, flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate. Or maybe because it isn't any under real load, I don't know. I agree with you I don't think it is the driveline because like you said it happens at the same RPM in every gear so I can pretty much rule that out. I was thinking of pulling the tranny and looking at the clutch and pressure plate just to maybe rule it out. Thanks
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Depending on which bellhousing you have and if it has an access cover on the bottom .... you could try taking the bolts out of the clutch, turning it one position on the flywheel and then bolting it back up and see what happens. If it changes the vibration, you know it is the clutch for sure.

If it only does it under load though, you could very possibly have a missfire situation or some other tuning issue causing the "vibration"

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Depending on which bellhousing you have and if it has an access cover on the bottom .... you could try taking the bolts out of the clutch, turning it one position on the flywheel and then bolting it back up and see what happens. If it changes the vibration, you know it is the clutch for sure.

If it only does it under load though, you could very possibly have a missfire situation or some other tuning issue causing the "vibration"
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Thanks for the help I am going to have to remove the tranny completely I have the an original aluminum bellhousing unfortunatly no access panel to the clutch. I will give this a go and see what I can find out thanks for all the good advice.
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